09-29-2012, 12:27 AM
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One thing i can add. Ive got a customer with a hunter 45' with a 14'beam 5' draft on a canal west of bal harbor in PGI
This I like to hear. Does their boat ever sit on the bottom?
09-29-2012, 08:26 AM
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This I like to hear. Does their boat ever sit on the bottom?
That i dont know id ask some clubs also. But near the beach complex in the winter i have seen some larger sailboats leaning over.
09-29-2012, 04:19 PM
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I emailed the Commodore of the Punta Gorda Sailing Club...lets see where this goes!
09-29-2012, 10:50 PM
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Also - another board I read had some mention of a guy that bought a lot in South Gulf Cove with a dock and keeps his boat there, off grid. He owns a house that is not waterfront, but got a lot more for his money that way (and a newer home too)
09-30-2012, 05:16 AM
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This I like to hear. Does their boat ever sit on the bottom?
PGI bordered by West Marion, Aqui Esta, Coronado, and Bal Harbor is all pretty deep; there are a lot of big boats moored there. So far, I haven't found a spot under 8 feet, although I'm sure there are those spots at some dead ends. Off our dock is 8 ft at low, winter tide, and it's never been dredged.
09-30-2012, 10:37 AM
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Also - another board I read had some mention of a guy that bought a lot in South Gulf Cove with a dock and keeps his boat there, off grid. He owns a house that is not waterfront, but got a lot more for his money that way (and a newer home too)
You can do this at South Gulf Cove. A Sailboat lot in the back section can be bought for 20,000 and up. Up by the lock can be bought for 60,000 and up. With a 5ft draw he would have to buy up by the locks on the main channel. Most likely you will have to leave the boat in the water because the power company won't allow you to have power to just a dock without a house on the lot. You could go solar to get around the power issue for the dock. I have thought about doing this since I have lots on the water. But I have never lived off the water in Florida. Just don't think I would like it unless the house was right across the street from my lots.
09-30-2012, 04:59 PM
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You can do this at South Gulf Cove. A Sailboat lot in the back section can be bought for 20,000 and up. Up by the lock can be bought for 60,000 and up. With a 5ft draw he would have to buy up by the locks on the main channel. Most likely you will have to leave the boat in the water because the power company won't allow you to have power to just a dock without a house on the lot. You could go solar to get around the power issue for the dock. I have thought about doing this since I have lots on the water. But I have never lived off the water in Florida. Just don't think I would like it unless the house was right across the street from my lots.
I already have the boat on solar for galvanic isolation (A/C ground connections are a *BAD* idea in neighborhoods where you dont know all the boats) so "off-grid" isn't a problem. What will be a problem is no water onsite to do wash-downs and cleanup of the boat. Even in freshwater canal, the birds, spiders, and other flora/fauna can make a mess. So is it possible to lay water lines but no power?
Any way to get depths in South Gulf Cove? I'll probably go over there with my dinghy and my handheld depth sounder and sound the canals at low tide one of these weekends, but if that could save me the trip.
$60k is more than i thought it would be...considering you can get marina slips/dockominiums with full facilities in the 40-50 ft. range for $30-$45k in Marco Island. Interesting...I guess it is a lot that can have a house on it!!!
09-30-2012, 06:52 PM
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I already have the boat on solar for galvanic isolation (A/C ground connections are a *BAD* idea in neighborhoods where you dont know all the boats) so "off-grid" isn't a problem. What will be a problem is no water onsite to do wash-downs and cleanup of the boat. Even in freshwater canal, the birds, spiders, and other flora/fauna can make a mess. So is it possible to lay water lines but no power?
The water and sewer works the same as power. No house no water. The tap fees are around 11,000 per lot. There are no tides with locks. The water stays the same all the time except when heavy rains come.I used my dinghy and depth gauge long time ago when I bought some others lots for my sailboat. I now have a cruiser that draws 2.5 ft. and a whaler that draws 1ft. Due to my poor health everything has to be real easy on me to use.
09-30-2012, 09:32 PM
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@fiege1224 - can you comment on where to find more info about the proposed south lock on this waterway? I know you've mentioned drawing 5' would be a challenge in South Gulf Cove, but the economics are dictating a $20-$40k max spend on the lot. In fact, as I've mentioned earlier, I actually draw 4'9"...so with marginal tide assist, I think I would be able to manage this waterway...correct? I understand likely having to dredge near the seawall/dock though.
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House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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