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Old 08-31-2016, 11:39 AM
 
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Old 08-31-2016, 02:05 PM
 
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Can anyone tell me what is going on here? Corner of Durant st. and Driggers ave.

Looks like a few piles of sewer pipe, or will these be new culverts?

I noticed the last few days water has been flowing like a river from swales far away....under the street in two sections with old steel culvert pipes and out into the dead end and pretty stagnant canal end behind those trees. I never noticed this runoff drainage before in 8 years. The blacktop has also been cut across like they are about to tear it up.

They say our septics are to blame for the water quality, yet the entire neighborhood seemingly dumps right into this canal (Countryman). All the fertilizer, road grease and grime, dog and other animal poop.....unfiltered by sand like our septics are, right into the canal....in a place of the canal with very little flow. Something doesn't seem right.
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Old 08-31-2016, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Lemon Bay, Englewood, FL
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Can anyone tell me what is going on here? Corner of Durant st. and Driggers ave.

Looks like a few piles of sewer pipe, or will these be new culverts?

I noticed the last few days water has been flowing like a river from swales far away....under the street in two sections with old steel culvert pipes and out into the dead end and pretty stagnant canal end behind those trees. I never noticed this runoff drainage before in 8 years. The blacktop has also been cut across like they are about to tear it up.

They say our septics are to blame for the water quality, yet the entire neighborhood seemingly dumps right into this canal (Countryman). All the fertilizer, road grease and grime, dog and other animal poop.....unfiltered by sand like our septics are, right into the canal....in a place of the canal with very little flow. Something doesn't seem right.
That has been one of the MANY legitimate arguments for YEARS when the county says it has "extensive, comprehensive data collection pointing to water quality problems in the canals and the harbor". Almost all storm water drainage (along with it's contaminates) empty into our miles & miles of waterways. But the BOCC always turn a deaf ear on those "ridiculous" arguments. They ONLY listen to data supporting their own agenda. Period.

And those concrete pipe sections are for storm drainage. Sewer is smaller pink or purple piping with seals on one end.
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Old 09-01-2016, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte, FL - Pasadena, People's Republic of Maryland
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Funny thing is.... If the vacant lot owners walk away, and no one bids on the tax sale, I believe, everyone in the county will share the cost of the lost taxes which will include the $15,000 sewer assessment for each lot.

Just like we all share the burden from the 607 pages of properties on the county tax sale list to date.
https://charlotte.lienexpress.net/certificates

So it's not just the owners of properties in the Phase II area who will be affected.
Unfortunately, that's the way property taxes, and now our poop tax, are set up. We all subsidize the system.
A house worth $350,000 will pay more in property tax than a house worth $100,000. But the reality is that it doesn't cost the county any more to provide services for the owners of the $350,000 house than it does for those with the $100,000 house. Those with more subsidize those with less, or in the case of the vacant lots who's owners walk away and sewer cost, those that are non existent.
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Old 09-01-2016, 08:06 AM
 
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Unfortunately, that's the way property taxes, and now our poop tax, are set up. We all subsidize the system.
A house worth $350,000 will pay more in property tax than a house worth $100,000. But the reality is that it doesn't cost the county any more to provide services for the owners of the $350,000 house than it does for those with the $100,000 house. Those with more subsidize those with less, or in the case of the vacant lots who's owners walk away and sewer cost, those that are non existent.
I think the most equitable way of collecting taxes would be based on the square footage of the lot and the number of occupants.

Gary
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Old 09-01-2016, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte, FL - Pasadena, People's Republic of Maryland
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I think the most equitable way of collecting taxes would be based on the square footage of the lot and the number of occupants.

Gary
I can agree on the number of occupants but does it really cost the county any more to provide services whether your lot is 10,000 sq/ft or 100,000 sq/ft? I will go along with road frontage though. The county is not the one maintaining the lot although they are maintaining the road in front of it.
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Old 09-01-2016, 01:17 PM
 
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I can agree on the number of occupants but does it really cost the county any more to provide services whether your lot is 10,000 sq/ft or 100,000 sq/ft? I will go along with road frontage though. The county is not the one maintaining the lot although they are maintaining the road in front of it.
I agree.... So number of occupants and roadway frontage.
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Old 09-21-2016, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte, FL - Pasadena, People's Republic of Maryland
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Can anyone tell me what is going on here? Corner of Durant st. and Driggers ave.
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I see they're finally starting to work there. They've had their supplies and equipment staged there for, what, 3 or more weeks?
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Old 09-21-2016, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I see they're finally starting to work there. They've had their supplies and equipment staged there for, what, 3 or more weeks?
Yeah, they had Durant all dug up today....looks like a few more streets are next.
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:06 PM
 
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I see they're finally starting to work there. They've had their supplies and equipment staged there for, what, 3 or more weeks?

CHARLOTTE COUNTY GOVERNMENT

Notice of Overnight Road Closure - Durant Street at Driggers Avenue

PORT CHARLOTTE, Fla. (Sept. 21, 2016) There will be an overnight road closure on Durant Street at Driggers Avenue from Wednesday, Sept. 21, through Friday Sept. 23, 2016 as stormwater pipes are replaced at this location. Detour signs / traffic control devices will be in place to direct traffic around the construction site.
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