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Old 09-18-2016, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Lemon Bay, Englewood, FL
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Don't stress MA. It will be just fine. We'll get through it. See ya tomorrow at 1
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Old 09-20-2016, 11:06 AM
 
Location: PGI
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^^^ Yep ... and if the market bottoms out next year or so, they will be up the creek without a kayak. Happens all the time.
This has the potential to bring down property values if they only partially build, or if it looks like a bunch of row houses, which it will on those narrow lots. The developer submitted a proposal that would pretty much give them complete autonomy in deciding when to build. So they could conceivable purchase the land, put up a model "upscale" homes on a 50' wide lot and wait forever to build another home.

Tomorrow at their 9AM meeting, the Punta Gorda City Council will be voting on selling the 11 acre parcel to a developer for $1.5M (they are leaning toward selling).

The land is zoned for almost anything. If the city signs on to that proposal, this has the potential of going seriously south.
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Old 09-20-2016, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Punta Gorda
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Just FYI most of the homes in the surrounding area are on 50' lots and PGI Builders being a part of this could be a good thing. Most developments are open ended. They can't just go and build out a development on hopes they sell. 1st phase is to do sidewalks and models and I'm sure the city will stay on them to keep the area up. They are very strict in the downtown area.
Hopefully it works out well for everyone involved.
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Old 09-22-2016, 01:51 PM
 
Location: PGI
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I could only find 50' wide lots nearby on Ann & MacGregor and some of the homes there were built on two lots. Not that it matters, though. They voted against selling the property.
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Old 09-23-2016, 04:37 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Just FYI most of the homes in the surrounding area are on 50' lots and PGI Builders being a part of this could be a good thing. Most developments are open ended. They can't just go and build out a development on hopes they sell. 1st phase is to do sidewalks and models and I'm sure the city will stay on them to keep the area up. They are very strict in the downtown area.
Hopefully it works out well for everyone involved.
Wow, that must be the minimum size or the city/county changed some requirements after we built our house in unincorporated Charlotte county. We were told that at 45 feet wide (by 200 feet long) one lot was too narrow to build on, back when we started to build in 2004. We agreed and didn't want to be packed in anyway, so we had purchased additional lots for the additional total of an acre and we built the house in the middle of the acreage. But IMO 50 feet sounds about as claustrophobic as 45 feet would have been. But when a builder is packing as many houses as can be crammed into a space (55 houses on 11 acres???),
the county is seeing $$$$$$$$ in additional taxes from folks entranced by the "upscale" label and other sales pitches on the housing project willing and anxious to live there, I guess it doesn't matter.

I will see if I can find an alternate route to avoid that mess when I go visit my mother who's in an ALF on Shreve Street.
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Punta Gorda
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Wow, that must be the minimum size or the city/county changed some requirements after we built our house in unincorporated Charlotte county. We were told that at 45 feet wide (by 200 feet long) one lot was too narrow to build on, back when we started to build in 2004. We agreed and didn't want to be packed in anyway, so we had purchased additional lots for the additional total of an acre and we built the house in the middle of the acreage. But IMO 50 feet sounds about as claustrophobic as 45 feet would have been. But when a builder is packing as many houses as can be crammed into a space (55 houses on 11 acres???),
the county is seeing $$$$$$$$ in additional taxes from folks entranced by the "upscale" label and other sales pitches on the housing project willing and anxious to live there, I guess it doesn't matter.

I will see if I can find an alternate route to avoid that mess when I go visit my mother who's in an ALF on Shreve Street.
Yes the downtown area zoning seems to be a little different. Many had bought double lots because of it. 50' lot is most certainly claustrophobic, you better like your neighbor
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:36 AM
 
Location: New Jersey/Florida
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Default 50' lot is most certainly claustrophobic, you better like your neighbor

We lived in a city for over 30 years on a 25 by 100 lot. In the summer when the windows were open you could hear people snoring, farting, talking etc. You could also smell everything that your neighbor cooked. LMAO
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Old 09-23-2016, 10:57 AM
 
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Development plan rejected

West Henry property to remain in city hands
Property between West Henry and Shreve streets will remain in city hands after a close Punta Gorda City Council decision this week regarding a proposed development. The vacant land was the site of the old public works and utilities campus, located near the History Park and Hounds on Henry dog park. Community members applauded the decision after the 3-2 council vote.
Mayor Rachel Keesling and Vice Mayor Kim Devine favored the development. Keesling said as long as she has been on the City Council, the property has been considered surplus land, and the plans for the new development looked like a beautiful neighborhood.
Devine agreed and said the $450,000 cottages would be snatched up, adding more rooftops to support the city’s business community. Several community members came opposition to the meeting to voice their opposition to the project; none spoke in support of the development. Residents raised concern about overdevelopment and losing one of the green areas left in the city, advocating the property’s use as park space, pickleball courts, or an outdoor concert venue.
Gary Skillicorn, a Punta Gorda resident for four years, said some community members had started a petition, which got 160 names over the course of three days. He said the property is a diamond in the rough that the city should hold onto.
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Old 09-23-2016, 02:41 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Development plan rejected

West Henry property to remain in city hands
Property between West Henry and Shreve streets will remain in city hands after a close Punta Gorda City Council decision this week regarding a proposed development. The vacant land was the site of the old public works and utilities campus, located near the History Park and Hounds on Henry dog park. Community members applauded the decision after the 3-2 council vote.
Mayor Rachel Keesling and Vice Mayor Kim Devine favored the development. Keesling said as long as she has been on the City Council, the property has been considered surplus land, and the plans for the new development looked like a beautiful neighborhood.
Devine agreed and said the $450,000 cottages would be snatched up, adding more rooftops to support the city’s business community. Several community members came opposition to the meeting to voice their opposition to the project; none spoke in support of the development. Residents raised concern about overdevelopment and losing one of the green areas left in the city, advocating the property’s use as park space, pickleball courts, or an outdoor concert venue.
Gary Skillicorn, a Punta Gorda resident for four years, said some community members had started a petition, which got 160 names over the course of three days. He said the property is a diamond in the rough that the city should hold onto.
Good news as far as I can tell!
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Old 09-23-2016, 04:00 PM
 
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The City should really be focused on purchasing the large empty parcels downtown on Marian Ave.

If they ever get sold there will be no place to hold the many large festivities that currently happen there.

Gary
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