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Old 12-23-2010, 06:57 PM
 
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Lots of folks go away to visit family, etc.

If I were cynical I might ruminate on the fact that the board (cough cough Tedesco cough) reportedly only had this one candidate lined up... and let's hold that vote two days before Christmas!

Nah, I wouldn't think that, not me.
You really should think of it that way and you have history on your side. It is easiest to do something controversial the Thursday before a long weekend especially Xmas. You have the main press people probably off and not wanting to spend a lot of time on it and think about it many people are off tomorrow or out of town in the community and now is the ideal time to sneak something as under the radar as you are going to get. Presidents get accused of it as does many others in the public sector who practice it. Remember the release of the log of the Presidents staff meetings with Rod Blagojevich just before the holidays.
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Old 12-23-2010, 09:08 PM
 
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Um..yeah. Based on some politically oriented things he's said and indicated elsewhere, I'm not at all impressed. He's not trained in education and someone taking a 10 month course to learn how to run school systems actually frightens me. But honestly, I didn't expect anything better from this board. I never thought I'd say it, but it's looking more and more like a move out of WCPSS for us. Thank goodness I've already gotten one almost out and another one half way through.
DITTO all the way. Educators should run the schools. Would you hire a school teacher to run a corporation? Or a school superintendent to lead an army into battle? No way. The current board thinks nothing of shuffling kids around based on the parents who scream the loudest, but children are not marbles, they're humans. Their childhood friendships and socialization matter.

We're looking at all our options this year and are really hoping to get into a charter school. I'm DONE putting up with WCPSS. Wish I could afford the $$$$ for private, but we just can't.
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Old 12-23-2010, 09:10 PM
 
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Okay, I will say this...Michelle Rhee hand picked him and I thought she had a lot of good ideas (getting into the political scene wasn't one of them). I was sorry to see her get the boot from DC. (I follow the education news there as well...family in the area).

Meanwhile, I'm still puzzling over this quote...
"He will be the CEO of a $1.2 billion business,” said GOP school board member John Tedesco. “There are few and far between the number of leaders of his caliber who have entered Wake County.”

Does this statement actually make any grammatical sense?

As a Ph.D. in English, I would like to say, simply, no. Nor logical sense, either. But then again, Tedesco rarely says anything beyond worn out business cliches anyway. His powerpoint presentation on the zone model was a nightmare.
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Old 12-23-2010, 09:53 PM
 
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Default So this is how you do it?

Former Army general named new Wake superintendent - Wake County - NewsObserver.com

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Mirroring many of the votes that have split them over the past year, the officially non-partisan board split 4-2 along party lines with Republicans backing Tata. Democrats Kevin Hill and Carolyn Morrison voted no. Keith Sutton and Anne McLaurin were absent, complaining about lack of notice about the meeting, which was scheduled Tuesday.

A motion backed by Morrison and Hill to defer the vote to Jan. 4 to allow for parental comment was defeated by the same 4-2 vote. But both said they’d back Tata now that he’s hired.

Read more: Former Army general named new Wake superintendent - Wake County - NewsObserver.com
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Old 12-24-2010, 05:58 AM
 
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HOWEVER, and this is a very big HOWEVER, I don't think there is room in education for partisan politics. I don't think teachers should be overt in the classroom about their politics.
The overwhelming majority of those in academia are liberal/democrats and those views are often pushed in the classroom.
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Old 12-24-2010, 06:10 AM
 
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The overwhelming majority of those in academia are liberal/democrats and those views are often pushed in the classroom.
The very nature of public school education in the United States especially urban schools is progressive(valuing change) by definition and practice. Education reform has created strange bedfellows working together. One notable example is Newt Gingrich and Al Sharpton. Attaching the word liberal can be misleading as that is often how someone looking from the outside in might see things. Obviously American education needs reform and that=progressive. Within the reform movement are both Democrats and Republicans as noted by NCLB which had a very strong bipartisan push.

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favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor.
The new superintendent may be just that. A political conservative with a progressive agenda.
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Old 12-24-2010, 12:59 PM
 
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The overwhelming majority of those in academia are liberal/democrats and those views are often pushed in the classroom.
Academia as in universities, perhaps. Certainly not our schools here in Wake. I've been on the PTA, involved in schools, friends who are teachers...many are conservative Republicans. As to what the breakdown is, I don't know but you cannot say they are majority liberal democrats...I just don't see it. IMO grade school curriculum is not reflective of liberal influence.
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Old 12-24-2010, 01:24 PM
 
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Academia as in universities, perhaps. Certainly not our schools here in Wake. I've been on the PTA, involved in schools, friends who are teachers...many are conservative Republicans. As to what the breakdown is, I don't know but you cannot say they are majority liberal democrats...I just don't see it. IMO grade school curriculum is not reflective of liberal influence.
Making that short blanket statement is just repeating a talking point, most likely not based in actual observation on the part of the person making the statement.

Which is the exactly what this discussion does not need in order to be productive.
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Old 12-24-2010, 02:30 PM
 
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Academia as in universities, perhaps. Certainly not our schools here in Wake. I've been on the PTA, involved in schools, friends who are teachers...many are conservative Republicans. As to what the breakdown is, I don't know but you cannot say they are majority liberal democrats...I just don't see it. IMO grade school curriculum is not reflective of liberal influence.
In the true sense of the definitions teachers and their unions tend to be very conservative when it comes to their jobs and education reform. Other areas they might be very different. I suspect for a number of reasons that the new superintendent will be a reformer and it will be interesting to see how much teachers in Wake embrace that change. He quite possibly will push for changes in evaluation and how Wake wants to implement reduction in force might provide a lively discussion in local education circles.
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Old 12-24-2010, 03:25 PM
 
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He quite possibly will push for changes in evaluation and how Wake wants to implement reduction in force might provide a lively discussion in local education circles.
Race to the Top funding requires certain standards for evaluation of teachers...so changes are likely in the wind no matter who got the job.
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