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Old 04-05-2011, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Downtown Durham, NC
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There is a viable solution: build "RTP" 2.0 on the eastern side of the triangle between say knightdale and clayton. Mass transit is not a good fit for the triangle as we lack a true central area where a majority of the population congregates for work. By encouraging another "RTP" to the east, that could vastly cut the number of people taking long commutes by giving those that moved out there to save money, a closer place to work. This would also increase property values and prosperity in those areas. We honestly do not have the where-with-all to build an elaborate mass transit system anyway, but by encouraging business (other than the Pharma corps that are out there already) to build in that area, we can take a bite out of the problem at little cost.
So we should go out of our way to help those out that already live a subsidized life through the highways built with my tax dollars?

Folks that chose to live in Clayton and work in the park need to recognize that commuting will be a way of life. If they failed to include that cost in the money they "saved" by living out in the boonies, then they should suffer for it until they move closer to where they work. There's no reason the government should subsidize sprawl any more than it already does.

As far as living in an urban location and still having a house with a yard, it's possible. I live six blocks from Brightleaf Square and still have a yard with a vegetable and fruit garden out front and a fire pit out back. It's more than enough land for me.
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Old 04-05-2011, 04:43 PM
 
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Vegas,Phoenix,Atlanta are sprawl.We have a long way to go.
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Old 04-05-2011, 04:47 PM
 
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Vegas,Phoenix,Atlanta are sprawl.We have a long way to go.
And you know what,people b@#ch about sprawl,yet their a part of it.I guess we should stop it after you all move in and get comfy.Then we can complain about it.
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Old 04-05-2011, 04:55 PM
 
Location: CT
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WHAT did they say? I always feel these articles have a hidden agenda, like some of these CEO's are investing in the high-speed rail project going around the country, or something like that. To say Raleigh has the worst commute in the country is an outrageous exaggeration. Coming from the NYC area, Raleigh is a dream to get around. What they should do is get some new buses, and have expresses from various developments that go directly to the Research Park. They could have WI-FI, some TV's, etc... and make the commute pleasurable.
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Old 04-05-2011, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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apparently they have never been to charlotte
a-men!!!
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Old 04-05-2011, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Sunny Sandy Ego
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Can't have it both ways.

I live in San Diego and can tell you that traffic is not bad in the RTP. As stated, the RTP does not have a true metro area like NYC or Chicago, so transit systems become less efficient as well. Also, investing in a transit system takes infrastructure and MONEY...so more taxes too.

It is interesting to observe the RTP is sprawling horizontally and not vertically, since we don't have a true downtown or metro area. It is an identity sorely lacking...if Raleigh could mimic say downtown Seattle...it would really stand out!
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Old 04-05-2011, 05:26 PM
 
Location: North Carolina; former New York Stater
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I live in Raleigh and have worked in Durham, Cary, RTP, Zebulon, and Youngsville. It's never taken me more than a half hour to get anywhere.

I don't see the problem.
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Old 04-05-2011, 05:30 PM
 
Location: CT
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There is another post about the absence of a Raleigh skyline....so maybe in the future they will build up and give the downtown some more character.
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Old 04-05-2011, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Did everyone fail to see that this article showed Raleigh in a positive light? The title of the article is "Intelligent Cities" and it focuses on how cities are tackling problems that they currently face. It is undeniable that Raleigh's growth over the past couple of decades has been poorly managed, but it is also true that we are making great strides recently as we have seen the negative affects sprawl can have on a society's way of life.

Michael
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Old 04-05-2011, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Sunny Sandy Ego
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Did everyone fail to see that this article showed Raleigh in a positive light? The title of the article is "Intelligent Cities" and it focuses on how cities are tackling problems that they currently face. It is undeniable that Raleigh's growth over the past couple of decades has been poorly managed, but it is also true that we are making great strides recently as we have seen the negative affects sprawl can have on a society's way of life.

Michael
Yup. If you want to look at an unintelligent downtown, look at Durham.

So much potential (DUrham Bulls/ DUke/ DPAC) but one crappy disorganized infrastructure and urban development plan.
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