2nd speeding ticket.. need advice (college, DMV, cost of)
Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, CaryThe Triangle Area
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I don't see 35 on that section as "ridiculously low" at all. 53 is quite excessive. It is 50% more than the posted speed limit (compare that to 23% higher for the 80 in a 65).
I actually wish Cary would patrol and ticket more than they do, until people actually start driving closer to the speed limit around town. And give tickets often for all the roll stops that people are doing. I don't really care about speeding on highways, but on roads around town it should really be enforced.
If I was in this situation, I would take the PJC, slow down, and buy a good radar detector. And be thankful no one was hurt.
Aother example of a ridiculously low speed limit that cops take advantage of to prey on drivers going a perfectly safe, but unlawful, speed. Pathetic,
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Yeah, that is a ridiculous speed there - I always laugh when I'm going 37 mph with all the others "in the know" in the right lane and people are zooming by me in the left. Just saw someone pulled over the other day. I try to avoid that stretch of Maynard whenever possible.
Yes, fight it, get a radar detector and by all means, feel entitled to drive whatever speed you would like to drive. God forbid anyone ever take responsibility for their actions.
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Yes, fight it, get a radar detector and by all means, feel entitled to drive whatever speed you would like to drive. God forbid anyone ever take responsibility for their actions.
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
I dont think your slogan there at the end is relevant at all if your implying that "doing the time" means just paying your fine and points. Getting a lawyer is well within your rights, as is using a radar detector, and can be equated to "doing the time".
Speed cameras and speeding tickets are 90% about revenue generation and 10% about safety. Speed limits should be dictated by the flow of traffic, not some arbitrary group of law enforcement officials and politicians and corrupt city planners. I get that people live there, and they dont want folks going 65mph down their road. Make it at least 45mph on a 2 lane major road with turning lanes, as evidenced by most of the other roads in the area. You dont see the speed limit on Cary Parkway drop to 35mph after Bond Park where houses are, do you?
Why dont they raise the speed limit then on Maynard? Right or wrong, it's another 10mph and $100+ added to each speeding ticket, so why should they? A speed LIMIT should be just that, a limit. 35 is not reasonable there, and I have a fundamental issue with generating revenue in such a situation. To sit at the bottom of a hill, knowing that a car that is "reasonably" speeding, IE <7mph over as notated on most traffic citations, will pick up another 5-10mph coming down that hill for a moment making them a target, is disgusting and just wrong.
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I dont think your slogan there at the end is relevant at all if your implying that "doing the time" means just paying your fine and points. Getting a lawyer is well within your rights, as is using a radar detector, and can be equated to "doing the time".
Speed cameras and speeding tickets are 90% about revenue generation and 10% about safety. Speed limits should be dictated by the flow of traffic, not some arbitrary group of law enforcement officials and politicians and corrupt city planners. I get that people live there, and they dont want folks going 65mph down their road. Make it at least 45mph on a 2 lane major road with turning lanes, as evidenced by most of the other roads in the area. You dont see the speed limit on Cary Parkway drop to 35mph after Bond Park where houses are, do you?
Why dont they raise the speed limit then on Maynard? Right or wrong, it's another 10mph and $100+ added to each speeding ticket, so why should they? A speed LIMIT should be just that, a limit. 35 is not reasonable there, and I have a fundamental issue with generating revenue in such a situation. To sit at the bottom of a hill, knowing that a car that is "reasonably" speeding, IE <7mph over as notated on most traffic citations, will pick up another 5-10mph coming down that hill for a moment making them a target, is disgusting and just wrong.
There are no houses fronting on Cary Parkway, nor any that have had their driveways shortened to add a lane.
Maynard is an entirely different driving proposition, with numerous driveways and homes fronting the street. And, the speed limit is 35MPH for an extended distance on either side of the area near Pamlico, Plantation, et al. The driver was likely speeding prior to reaching the area where she was detained.
I have had a few speeding tix, although none for years, but every one was 100% MY fault, not the fault of the governing body or the cop.
There are no houses fronting on Cary Parkway, nor any that have had their driveways shortened to add a lane.
Maynard is an entirely different driving proposition, with numerous driveways and homes fronting the street. And, the speed limit is 35MPH for an extended distance on either side of the area near Pamlico, Plantation, et al. The driver was likely speeding prior to reaching the area where she was detained.
I have had a few speeding tix, although none for years, but every one was 100% MY fault, not the fault of the governing body or the cop.
Excuse me, I meant High House after Bond Park. Houses with driveways open right to High House. 45mph. I'm sure there are other examples in the area.
To be clear, no where in my post did I claim a lack of "blame" or responsibility when one gets a speeding ticket. What I am claiming is that there are unreasonable speed limits motivated by financial interests, under the guise of "safety", and it's wrong. A 35mph speed LIMIT on Maynard road is unreasonable. Totally separate from responsibility for a speeding ticket after the fact.
Wake Co will not reduce the ticket to a non-moving violation.
Your attorney is correct. The best option is a PJC. You are allowed one PJC per household every three years, with a max of 2 per household in a 5-year period.
You do not need an attorney for the PJC, but it is more convenient.
I also suggest getting a reduction to Exceeding Posted Speed and then getting a PJC. It'll look a little prettier when she gets rated at the next insurance review.
Edited to add: the DA will offer a reduced speed, but a reduction in speed will do no good without a PCJ since she has the prior ticket for 9 over.
Good luck,
Mike
Disclaimer - I am an attorney and have handled several thousand traffic tickets in my career, but I no longer deal with traffic tickets.
Fight the ticket because of slope and have it revoked.
Even with a slope they were going WAY above the limit. You shouldn't let your car reach that rate of speed above the limit. You'll lose if you try to fight that.
If financial interests where the motivating factor, then why wouldn't that High House hill have a 35mph, too. No, the reality is that it depends on several factors. What speeds was the road designed for? What speeds did the traffic study recommend? Are there schools, libraries, churches, curves, etc. ? Did the local residents unite in trying to get the speed limit set a different way? Was the person representing those residents of the party with the majority? What side of the bed did the town council wake up the morning they voted? Etc.
If financial interests where the motivating factor, then why wouldn't that High House hill have a 35mph, too. No, the reality is that it depends on several factors. What speeds was the road designed for? What speeds did the traffic study recommend? Are there schools, libraries, churches, curves, etc. ? Did the local residents unite in trying to get the speed limit set a different way? Was the person representing those residents of the party with the majority? What side of the bed did the town council wake up the morning they voted? Etc.
I agree with you. It's a heck of a lot easier to just say "aww screw it, just make it 35mph, we'll nab folks coming downhill and up the $$$" than to take anything else (including logic, as 35MPH is CRAWLING on that road) into account.
PS - there is a church, a park, a senior center, a downward curve to a stoplight and commercial area, and houses on that strip on High House. 45mph. Not complaining, again, just pointing out inconsistencies.
MikeHeel - curious as to why Wake County, specifically, will not reduce tickets?
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