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Old 02-28-2012, 12:21 AM
 
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Mod Note: The following posts were originally part of the "Jason Young mistrial" thread. Since a new trial was held, I've broken them off into their own thread.


Anyone following the retrial? Any thoughts? The guy looks guilty as sin, all circumstantial evidence points to him.

Seems the Prosecution has more evidence this time around, Prosecution rested this past Friday, Defense is introducing evidence this week and should be done by Thursday.

WRAL is airing the court trial live daily. I will be watching and waiting for the verdict by weeks end.

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Old 02-28-2012, 06:35 AM
 
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I think he's guilty but one thing I find odd is that he had no scratches or marks on his body. I would expect there would have been a struggle, so that seems a litle odd to me.
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:27 AM
 
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The prosecution does seem to be doing a better job this time. Personally, I think he is guilty, but they did not prove it to me beyond a reasonable doubt based on what they presented at the first trial. If I was on that jury I would have had to vote to aquit. This time, we'll see once the defense starts trying to poke holes in the state's case.
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:43 AM
 
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Anyone following the retrial? Any thoughts? The guy looks guilty as sin, all circumstantial evidence points to him.
I haven't followed the case closely - just read some of the press coverage - but it seems to me they have almost no evidence, direct or circumstantial. They have a theory and some conjecture, but not much else.

I may have missed something, but I haven't seen much reference to circumstantial evidence. I think there was some evidence of bloody footprints, but I haven't heard them tie those to Jason Young.
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:25 PM
 
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I don't know if he did it or not. I wasn't there. Neither were any of you. But I do have my suspicions. But even though I think he is a likely suspect, there hasn't been enough evidence to lock him up. If he did do it, he did a terrific job of covering his tracks. All the prosecutors have are suspicions, they still lack great evidence. And from what I've seen and heard, the gas station attendant who claims she saw him, isn't the most credible witness. I'd be shocked if they came up with a "guilty" verdict in this case, there simply isn't any evidence. And the day we lock people away because we can't find the REAL killer, is a sad day.
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Old 02-28-2012, 01:05 PM
 
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I think that sad day has come and already been long gone BigK.
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Old 02-28-2012, 02:02 PM
 
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Brad Cooper was found guilty on circumstantial evidence wasn't he? What concrete evidence did they have to lock him up? A computer search? The vast inconsistencies in some being found guilty vs acquittals vs hung juries has me perplexed and distrustful of our "legal" system. I definitely feel he did do this to his wife and baby. I feel more strongly that Jason Young killed his wife and baby than Brad Cooper killed his.
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Old 02-28-2012, 02:49 PM
 
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I think that sad day has come and already been long gone BigK.
Yes it has. And as tragic as these cases are, we have a judicial system in place that is supposed to serve a purpose. And that is to prove guilt. Millions of crimes go unsolved. And as bad as people feel for Michelle Young, her daughter, family etc, rushing to judgement because people "think" or "feel pretty sure" he did it, is not the way it should be handled. I feel pretty sure OJ killed Nicole, but he isn't going to serve time over it. And if the state can't come up with more evidence than making everyone believe that Michelle and Jason's marriage was on the rocks, then he shouldn't be in jail either.
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Old 02-28-2012, 03:10 PM
 
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Brad Cooper was found guilty on circumstantial evidence wasn't he? What concrete evidence did they have to lock him up?
I don't know about the Coooper case in particular, but "circumstantial" evidence can be quite concrete. I think people tend to assume that "circumstantial" means that the evidence is vague or iffy.

There are two kinds of evidence - direct (directly establishes that the crime was committed), or circumstantial (an inferrence is necessary to connect the evidence to the crime). "I saw the defendent enter the house just before the murder, and I saw him come out a short time later with blood all over his clothes" - is circumstantial evidence (so are footprints, fingerprints, etc.). "I saw the defendant shoot and kill the victim" is direct evidence.
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:25 PM
 
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Brad Cooper was found guilty on circumstantial evidence wasn't he? What concrete evidence did they have to lock him up? A computer search? The vast inconsistencies in some being found guilty vs acquittals vs hung juries has me perplexed and distrustful of our "legal" system. I definitely feel he did do this to his wife and baby. I feel more strongly that Jason Young killed his wife and baby than Brad Cooper killed his.
Both of these trials had too much emphasis on the defendant's reaction to being informed of his wife's death. To me, that is a no win situation. Not enough reaction and you are guilty. Too much reaction, you are acting and guilty. Everyone grieves differently - is there a "normal" reaction ?

I look forward to Cooper's appeal. I thought judge allowed and excluding things that should not / should have been submitted.

I fully support the DAs, but think sometimes they focus too much on winning a case, vs finding out the truth (which could be a guilty defendant - just prove it).
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