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Old 09-17-2007, 10:18 PM
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Illegal immigrants do not make up the majority of new residents in Raleigh. And they do NOT get a "free ride". They pay the same taxes as everyone else....property tax, gas tax, sales tax. The only question is whether they pay their fair share of income taxes. And many of them use fake IDs to get jobs, which means they do pay income taxes (more than legal residents, because they cannot get tax refunds) and they pay into Social Security, which they will never get back (since they won't get Social Security payments when they retire).
I don't recall the part of the law that allowed someone to impersonate anyone else legally, for any reason.

A large portion of them are here with no health coverage, which means unpaid ER bills, Medicare and Medicaid picking up the tab. Of course, Medicaid and Medicare aren't getting accurate numbers of people, so they're not even getting funded appropriately even according to their own broken allotment system, so yes - the unreported portion of the population is making that situation worse.

One of the northern states did a study a few years back, and tried to quantify the amount each taxpayer was contributing to covering the services for this population, and it came down to roughly 800$ per taxpayer per year. I'm all for helping out in any way I can, but taking like that is theft, pure and simple. A lot are probably decent enough, but me liking you doesn't change the law in any way.

The process for getting into this country has some serious problems, that is true. But it's the process we have - going around it is inexcusable, a crime, and quite honestly, discriminatory.

Finally - allowing certain companies to pay people below minimum standards (never mind the "under the table" part) is just a neat way to create a whole new generation of indentured servants, or - let's use the words - slaves. You know what - I'd rather pay a bit more for my vegetables, or my smithfield ham.

Fixing the system is important - but ignoring what's there isn't the solution.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:37 PM
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The only service an illegal alien deserves is a trip home. If they have any assets, those should be seized and sold to pay for the trip.

We really need to attack the johns (employers) to get rid of the prostitutes (illegals). No customers, no illegals, right? We'd not even need to pay to send them home.

Birthright citizenship needs to go too. Unless your parents are in the USA legally in immigrant status, no baby should automatically gain citizenship merely from the accident of popping out on US soil.

We are plain stupid and will be dragged down. President Calderon needs to solve poverty, not send it North.

If we mark the walls with signs showing people being shot and post signs in several languages, why should we not secure our sovereignty by defending our borders with military force?
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:47 PM
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IMO, this is our biggest problem. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, net international migration accounts for between 40 and 45 percent of annual growth in recent years. We have got to solve the immigration problem. We should stop illegal immigration and reduce legal immigration to a sensible, reasonable amount.
Yes, I agree that this growing population of illegals is a problem.

And here is another reason why illegals should not be here:

Landis Crash Scene Video Shown, Multiple Witnesses Called In Murder Trial - Charlotte News Story - WSOC Charlotte
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:53 PM
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Just wanted to chime in to say I completely agree w/ Saturnfan--no amnesty, no birthright citizenry. The prostitution analogy is a good one.
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Yes, I agree that this growing population of illegals is a problem.

And here is another reason why illegals should not be here:

Landis Crash Scene Video Shown, Multiple Witnesses Called In Murder Trial - Charlotte News Story - WSOC Charlotte
I guess this is just another hard working undocumented immigrant! I guess this is another job americans dont want to do. Funny how you never hear pro illegal immigration people talking about these stories. Again if he wasnt here this wouldnt have happended. Americans lives dont even matter anymore as long as someone make extra $$$...

This guy deserves life in prision with no parol. I would say deport but we all know that our borders are wide open and we even put border patrol in jail.
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Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Maricopa County, AZ just started a program to process all illegals for deportation if they cross paths with the sheriff's office. Joe put signs on his trucks with a phone number for reporting illegals.

As you may know, Joe's the sheriff who felt criminals deserve no better than our troops and opened tent jails. He also has a policy of never releasing convicts because of capacity - he puts up some more tents.

Joe for Persident in 2008!!!

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