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Old 05-28-2013, 06:07 PM
 
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Indeed, the rest could be babies, retirees, adults, blah, blah, blah... Just as there are non-white babies, retirees, adults...

But if 53% of the population is white, but only 20% of those attending school are white, what gives?

Do the white residents have way, way, way fewer school-age children?

Are a huge percentage of white students in private schools or homeschooled?

What?
Minorities have a much higher birth-rate than whites. It's as simple as that. The nation as a whole is 70% white but as of last year, less than half of all babies born are white. The boomer generation didn't have as many kids as their parents, and they are currently the largest "chunk" of the white population. That's why virtually anywhere you go in America; the ratio of white children to minority children is generally going to be significantly lower than the ratio of whites to minorities in the overall population.

 
Old 05-28-2013, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, NC, formerly NoVA and Phila
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Indeed, the rest could be babies, retirees, adults, blah, blah, blah... Just as there are non-white babies, retirees, adults...

But if 53% of the population is white, and only 20% of those attending school are white, what gives?

Do the white residents have way, way, way fewer school-age children?

Are a huge percentage of white students in private schools or homeschooled?

What?
Most likely it is that white people without school-aged children are more likely to move to Durham than white people with school-aged children. That would account for the higher white population overall than the white-school age population. In conjunction with that, of the white people with school-aged children who do live in Durham, many are likely to put their kids in private school.
 
Old 05-28-2013, 07:22 PM
 
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Most likely it is that white people without school-aged children are more likely to move to Durham than white people with school-aged children. That would account for the higher white population overall than the white-school age population. In conjunction with that, of the white people with school-aged children who do live in Durham, many are likely to put their kids in private school.
I think that's part of it. Lots of younger people with no kids and retirees with no kids, plus the people with kids who can send them to private and/or charter schools.
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Old 05-29-2013, 06:21 AM
 
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Everyone on this page has hit the nail on the head. You can see it on this site alone. People with the means to buy a $250k+ house and with children are almost always asking about schools in Chapel Hill or Wake County.

Really this issue boils down more to socioeconomics. If it's almost all lower income children in your school system, you're going to have the problems that go along with that. You don't need white children to have a successful school. You need children with parents that are active in the education process. Unfortunately in lower income households those parents aren't always around.
 
Old 05-29-2013, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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Everyone on this page has hit the nail on the head. You can see it on this site alone. People with the means to buy a $250k+ house and with children are almost always asking about schools in Chapel Hill or Wake County.
Nice broad strokes here...but you're flat wrong. I am white non-Hispanic and moved to Durham five years ago from Raleigh so that my kids could attend DPS and not be caught up in the mess over in WCPSS. FWIW, we live in an upper-middle class neighborhood with mostly medical professionals, lawyers, PhDs & business managers and more than 80% of the kids in our neighborhood attend DPS. I can assure you that most or all of us have the means to send our kids elsewhere, but we all appreciate the benefits of a public education and supporting local schools. Interestingly, one of the only black families with children in our neighborhood sends their kids to private schools.

More than anything this is article shows why one should not look at a single statistic in isolation. Nowhere did they show the relative growth rates of the Durham County white non-Hispanic population vs. other races because that would've left them with very little to write about.
 
Old 05-29-2013, 07:01 AM
 
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Nice broad strokes here...but you're flat wrong. I am white non-Hispanic and moved to Durham five years ago from Raleigh so that my kids could attend DPS and not be caught up in the mess over in WCPSS. FWIW, we live in an upper-middle class neighborhood with mostly medical professionals, lawyers, PhDs & business managers and more than 80% of the kids in our neighborhood attend DPS. I can assure you that most or all of us have the means to send our kids elsewhere, but we all appreciate the benefits of a public education and supporting local schools. Interestingly, one of the only black families with children in our neighborhood sends their kids to private schools.

More than anything this is article shows why one should not look at a single statistic in isolation. Nowhere did they show the relative growth rates of the Durham County white non-Hispanic population vs. other races because that would've left them with very little to write about.

I don't like broad strokes either, but Evaofnc does have a point. When I relocated to this area several years ago, the recommedations I received were for various part of Wake County and Chapel Hill. A search of this board shows the same. It is not to say that there are no recommendations for Durham, but it seems that they are not commonly seen.
 
Old 05-29-2013, 07:29 AM
 
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more than 80% of the kids in our neighborhood attend DPS. I can assure you that most or all of us have the means to send our kids elsewhere, but we all appreciate the benefits of a public education and supporting local schools.
Would you please expand on the benefits of public education, specifically at DPS, for your children.

Most families send their kids to public schools because they have limited options. But you and your neighbors have options. Why public schools? What do they offer your children that homeschooling or private schools do not?

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Old 05-29-2013, 07:33 AM
 
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Nice broad strokes here...but you're flat wrong. I am white non-Hispanic and moved to Durham five years ago from Raleigh so that my kids could attend DPS and not be caught up in the mess over in WCPSS. FWIW, we live in an upper-middle class neighborhood with mostly medical professionals, lawyers, PhDs & business managers and more than 80% of the kids in our neighborhood attend DPS. I can assure you that most or all of us have the means to send our kids elsewhere, but we all appreciate the benefits of a public education and supporting local schools. Interestingly, one of the only black families with children in our neighborhood sends their kids to private schools.

More than anything this is article shows why one should not look at a single statistic in isolation. Nowhere did they show the relative growth rates of the Durham County white non-Hispanic population vs. other races because that would've left them with very little to write about.
I don't think you are typical. She didn't say this was universally true. It just seems to be the case most of the time. She also said nothing about race being the key point. It was a financial observation.
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Old 05-29-2013, 07:46 AM
 
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[quote=janster100;29774932 It is not to say that there are no recommendations for Durham, but it seems that they are not commonly seen.[/QUOTE]

I don't think I've ever read a post extolling the virtues of Durham public schools in this forum or elsewhere. This is either the first, or one of the first, articles I've read in the paper about the district.

Anywhere from 20% to 96% of students receive free and reduced lunches. Varies widely by school.

Test scores range around the high 50's to low 60's.

23 magnet schools.

Hmmm.
 
Old 05-29-2013, 07:47 AM
 
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I don't think you are typical. She didn't say this was universally true. It just seems to be the case most of the time. She also said nothing about race being the key point. It was a financial observation.
Exactly. Reading comprehension, folks
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