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Old 10-10-2013, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Because the academics in Wake County has been so very bad in the past 10 years?
Riding a bus for 2 hours each way is so great for the child. Allows ample time for dinner and homework before bed when the child gets home at 6pm.
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Old 10-11-2013, 06:32 AM
 
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Sign of things to come in the next state election or is this isolated to Wake?
As Tip O'Neill once said, "All politics is local."
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:58 AM
 
Location: cary
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So excuse the naive post but we are newer to the area(less than 3 years) and only have kids in the school system for the past two years. Before everything that I have been reading about and hearing about over and over. What I don't understand, is these are elected members. Are there people that want their kids bused 2 hours, split from their neighborhood peers and vote for these elected officials or is there no better choice? I completely understand and support the helping of other, less fortunate schools or areas. Im happy to help anyway I can but not at the expense of what I feel is best for my own children. Are there more official, proactive ways for parents to united, join associations to voice our concerns besides comments on a forum?
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: My House
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So excuse the naive post but we are newer to the area(less than 3 years) and only have kids in the school system for the past two years. Before everything that I have been reading about and hearing about over and over. What I don't understand, is these are elected members. Are there people that want their kids bused 2 hours, split from their neighborhood peers and vote for these elected officials or is there no better choice? I completely understand and support the helping of other, less fortunate schools or areas. Im happy to help anyway I can but not at the expense of what I feel is best for my own children. Are there more official, proactive ways for parents to united, join associations to voice our concerns besides comments on a forum?
This area is not likely to ever become one that is "neighborhood schools only."

If it was, you just see that it would remake the problems people have had in areas where those with money buy themselves into good schools.

The "kid who is bused 2 hours" dramatic example is just that. Drama.

What most people are up in arms about is not getting the school that's a mile and a half away and winding up with the one that is 3 miles away.
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:53 AM
 
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Thank you for that very important clarification. I think with our crowding issues and year-round/tradional, private, etc, I would say every neighborhood has kids that go to a mix of schools. Heck, we have 4 elemantary school buses in our neighborhood twice a day and that does not count the private school children(oh, and its only an neighborhood of 100 homes)but the majority do go to the neighborhood school (it is not capped).

And I think if I think of your example, 3 miles is much better than 2 hours but I guess its the thought of your own child being moved not by your choice or what you feel is best for them. In the end, I guess we have to see how this plays out and as parents we need to get involved.
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:57 AM
 
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Thank you for that very important clarification. I think with our crowding issues and year-round/tradional, private, etc, I would say every neighborhood has kids that go to a mix of schools. Heck, we have 4 elemantary school buses in our neighborhood twice a day and that does not count the private school children(oh, and its only an neighborhood of 100 homes)but the majority do go to the neighborhood school (it is not capped).

And I think if I think of your example, 3 miles is much better than 2 hours but I guess its the thought of your own child being moved not by your choice or what you feel is best for them. In the end, I guess we have to see how this plays out and as parents we need to get involved.
I agree. I think there's a way to (generally) keep schools diverse while not sending kids to school very far from home.

Reality is the kids with the longest bus rides tend to be magnet school kids whose parents CHOSE to send them to that particular school.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:26 PM
 
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At some point the snarkyness from some of our rep friends has to stop...there are a lot important things that have to be accomplished in wcs....btw the shifting around had a lot to do w overcrowding in the fastest growing parts of the county....and we all know that having a large % of reduced or free lunch kids is not good for any school no matter the race....ask the school systems in rural nc
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:13 PM
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Location: Raleigh, NC
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The "kid who is bused 2 hours" dramatic example is just that. Drama
Maybe not 2hrs, but the Millbrook High School bus schedule shows Route 27 having 1.5hrs each way on the bus.. Since the bus arrives 30 minutes before school, the children actually need to be at the bus stop 2hrs before school starts.

5:27am first bus stop
6:56am arrive at Millbrook High School
7:25am school starts
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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The bus situation and how long bus routes are is worse now that it was when they were actually busing kids for diversity. In the past few years they reduced the number of buses in the fleet and combined routes. Add an ever increasing number of kids to the equationa nd you get 2 hour bus rides!!! ANd many of them don't even leave their surrounding neighborhood. Even kids in magnets who go to school 30 miles away get home MUCH faster because there are only a few of them on the bus.
Most of the new board, from what I have heard, is committed to not busing kids long distances. However, as another poster pointed out, crowding is the biggest cause for long bus rides and for kids not attending their closest school.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Maybe not 2hrs, but the Millbrook High School bus schedule shows Route 27 having 1.5hrs each way on the bus.. Since the bus arrives 30 minutes before school, the children actually need to be at the bus stop 2hrs before school starts.

5:27am first bus stop
6:56am arrive at Millbrook High School
7:25am school starts
Looks like you mean Route 23, not 27.

It's certainly not a good thing to be on the bus that long, but this is an extreme example, and I don't think it's driven by diversity. The route starts on the fringes of Wake County development, so it's naturally going to be a long route.

Leesville Road would be a closer school for them, but that school is already filled by closer students. Sanderson is marginally closer than Millbrook as well. Not everybody can go to their closest school...it depends on capacity and relative locations. So it's simply an issue with there not being that many high schools out in an area that is just getting developed.

That area is targeted for the future "H-11" high school, but it's not part of the just-passed bond measure.
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