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Old 10-18-2013, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Cupertino
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Thanks again everyone! With schools its a bit tricky to find out which District is better Wake or Chapel Hill Carrboro? When I looked at www.greatschools.org both districts are rated 7 when I compare to the Bay area school districts rated similarly are considered not good. I am sure the testing is different but the ratings are state based not national based. Is Chapel Hill considered a better place to live than Cary or Apex?
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:39 AM
 
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Is Chapel Hill considered a better place to live than Cary or Apex?
Yes, if comparing the school districts as a whole side by side. Performance by individual schools within those districts will vary. Cary and Apex are both Wake County schools.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Chapelboro
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They're just different. Raleigh/Cary (they share a contiguous border) are much larger than Chapel Hill/Carrboro. Chapel Hill/Carrboro is more Berkeley-ish (college town). There are lots of people who really love living in Cary — not my cup of tea, personally, but tons of people really like it.

Greatschools is pretty opinion-driven if I'm not mistaken. You might want to refer to the national rankings from US News or another source or SAT/ACT/etc test results. The NC Report Card site is good for comparing districts w/in NC.
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:06 AM
 
Location: My House
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Thanks again everyone! With schools its a bit tricky to find out which District is better Wake or Chapel Hill Carrboro? When I looked at www.greatschools.org both districts are rated 7 when I compare to the Bay area school districts rated similarly are considered not good. I am sure the testing is different but the ratings are state based not national based. Is Chapel Hill considered a better place to live than Cary or Apex?
No. CH is not considered a better place to live than Cary or Apex. It's about weighing variables.

CH has some great schools. They also have higher taxes to go along with them, and they are a bit further out from RTP than Cary or Apex. Depends on what you want and where you need to be. I cannot see why anyone would purposely move to Chapel Hill JUST for the schools. I see people say that they have done that, but most of them (not all, most) tend to work closer to Chapel Hill, so I don't think they moved there solely for the schools.

Cary (and to some extent, Apex) is more convenient to Raleigh and to RTP than Chapel Hill, and there are areas with very good schools in Cary (and in Apex). Taxes are lower. One's housing dollar stretches farther. Closer to the airport, more centralized (moreso in Cary than Apex, depending on which side of Cary one chooses)... so, it's a variables game.

Will you child get a better education in CH than in Cary? I doubt it will make a significant difference for someone who could afford to live in a better area of Wake County, really.

That's the challenge. CH is generally more expensive and the people who could benefit from it most are likely the people who cannot afford to live in much of a house there.

Lots of people love the vibe in CH. I'm not really wild about it. Don't dislike the town, just not a huge fan. I like Carrboro better, if I was inclined to move that way. And Hillsborough.

I think you need to come and see for yourself. You can get your kids educated well enough pretty much anywhere around here if you're a parent that is already well educated and interested in your child's progress.

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Old 10-18-2013, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Chapelboro
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I cannot see why anyone would purposely move to Chapel Hill JUST for the schools. I see people say that they have done that, but most of them (not all, most) tend to work closer to Chapel Hill, so I don't think they moved there solely for the schools.
Wow, Meh, I usually agree with much of what you say, but find a whole lot off-base in your post. Many people do move to Chapel Hill and Carrboro especially for the schools. I, personally, know lots of families who have done that and the parents do work in RTP.

Chapel Hill and Carrboro aren't that different not sure of the basis of your opinion on that, but to each her own.

Chapel Hill and Cary are pretty comparable expense wise:


Estimated median household income in 2011: $82,509 (it was $75,122 in 2000)
Cary:
$82,509
North Carolina:
$43,916
Estimated per capita income in 2011: $36,900

Cary town income, earnings, and wages data

Estimated median house or condo value in 2011: $314,400 (it was $193,000 in 2000)
Cary:
$314,400
North Carolina:
$153,700
Mean prices in 2011: All housing units: $320,036; Detached houses: $342,671; Townhouses or other attached units: $191,660; In 2-unit structures: $197,947; In 3-to-4-unit structures: $140,679; In 5-or-more-unit structures: $157,996; Mobile homes: $43,741

Median gross rent in 2011: $884.

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Cary-N...#ixzz2i6Bt3J3e



Estimated median household income in 2011: $58,860 (it was $39,140 in 2000)
Chapel Hill:
$58,860
North Carolina:
$43,916
Estimated per capita income in 2011: $33,809

Chapel Hill town income, earnings, and wages data

Estimated median house or condo value in 2011: $357,711 (it was $217,300 in 2000)
Chapel Hill:
$357,711
North Carolina:
$153,700
Mean prices in 2011: All housing units: $424,218; Detached houses: $470,357; Townhouses or other attached units: $250,331; In 2-unit structures: $483,434; In 3-to-4-unit structures: $184,109; In 5-or-more-unit structures: $258,647; Mobile homes: $20,754

Median gross rent in 2011: $877.

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Chapel...#ixzz2i6C1SPMm
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Old 10-19-2013, 12:45 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Comparisons between Cary and Chapel Hill are apples and oranges. One is an upper middle class suburb and the other is a essentially a college town.
As for schools, keep in mind that student performance can be a measure of the families from which they come as much, if not more, as the quality of the actual education. Weigh that apprropriately as you consider school districts. Putting ones child in a high performing district or school is not an automatic determinant of success.
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:17 AM
 
Location: My House
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Wow, Meh, I usually agree with much of what you say, but find a whole lot off-base in your post. Many people do move to Chapel Hill and Carrboro especially for the schools. I, personally, know lots of families who have done that and the parents do work in RTP.

Chapel Hill and Carrboro aren't that different — not sure of the basis of your opinion on that, but to each her own.

Chapel Hill and Cary are pretty comparable expense wise:


Estimated median household income in 2011: $82,509 (it was $75,122 in 2000)
Cary:
$82,509
North Carolina:
$43,916
Estimated per capita income in 2011: $36,900

Cary town income, earnings, and wages data

Estimated median house or condo value in 2011: $314,400 (it was $193,000 in 2000)
Cary:
$314,400
North Carolina:
$153,700
Mean prices in 2011: All housing units: $320,036; Detached houses: $342,671; Townhouses or other attached units: $191,660; In 2-unit structures: $197,947; In 3-to-4-unit structures: $140,679; In 5-or-more-unit structures: $157,996; Mobile homes: $43,741

Median gross rent in 2011: $884.

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Cary-N...#ixzz2i6Bt3J3e



Estimated median household income in 2011: $58,860 (it was $39,140 in 2000)
Chapel Hill:
$58,860
North Carolina:
$43,916
Estimated per capita income in 2011: $33,809

Chapel Hill town income, earnings, and wages data

Estimated median house or condo value in 2011: $357,711 (it was $217,300 in 2000)
Chapel Hill:
$357,711
North Carolina:
$153,700
Mean prices in 2011: All housing units: $424,218; Detached houses: $470,357; Townhouses or other attached units: $250,331; In 2-unit structures: $483,434; In 3-to-4-unit structures: $184,109; In 5-or-more-unit structures: $258,647; Mobile homes: $20,754

Median gross rent in 2011: $877.

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Chapel...#ixzz2i6C1SPMm

Not really sure I see your point here.

I was offering an opinion. I like Carrborro better than CH. I just do. Always have.

My comment about the expense of the area had to do with higher taxes. Taxes ARE higher there than anywhere in Wake County. Including Cary.

I'm not one to advertise for my hometown. This place is doing fine without me cheerleading for it. It's actually becoming a bit crowded. In my opinion.

And I said I wasn't convinced that many move there JUST for the schools. I am sure the schools may be a part of that choice. But, all? I am dubious that this happens very often.
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:20 AM
 
Location: My House
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Comparisons between Cary and Chapel Hill are apples and oranges. One is an upper middle class suburb and the other is a essentially a college town.
As for schools, keep in mind that student performance can be a measure of the families from which they come as much, if not more, as the quality of the actual education. Weigh that apprropriately as you consider school districts. Putting ones child in a high performing district or school is not an automatic determinant of success.
Yeah. That was pretty much my point.
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Oxxford Hunt, Cary NC
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If you look at the mean prices listed, Chapel Hill housing is much more expensive than Cary. Unless you want to live in mobile home, in which case Chapel Hill appears to be more favorable!
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:40 AM
 
Location: My House
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If you look at the mean prices listed, Chapel Hill housing is much more expensive than Cary. Unless you want to live in mobile home, in which case Chapel Hill appears to be more favorable!
Does anyone really WANT to live in a mobile home? I mean, if given the choice.
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