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Old 10-31-2013, 03:55 PM
 
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I agree and it's much better to learn the consequences of a "zero" in grade school than college & real life..
I wonder how many employers allow late work for partial credit..
I get the other side of the argument, but, to me, it just society trying to level an unlevel playing field.

Of course, there are circumstances where a teacher may give a student the opportunity to make up for the zero that they received, if the student shows the initiative. But, what message are we sending the kids who worked their butt off to get a 75?
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Old 10-31-2013, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Holly Springs
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By replacing a zero with a 50, it gives those with "less than admirable" motivation levels a LOT more leeway to coast through, and theoretically put forth even less effort to pass a class.
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Old 10-31-2013, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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By replacing a zero with a 50, it gives those with "less than admirable" motivation levels a LOT more leeway to coast through, and theoretically put forth even less effort to pass a class.

Aren't those with "less than admirable" motivation levels just going to get 50's? I don't see how it changes anything for students who are unmotivated...a 50 is still failing.
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Old 10-31-2013, 06:41 PM
 
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The common meaning of his specific use refers to 'weakening'.

pussification(noun): the state in which a society becomes less and less tough. This noun's originator is the famous comedian George Carlin.
I'm well-aware of what the OP intended to say, or the common meaning. The definition, however, doesn't make the reference any less offensive. Say whatever about society, but referring to children as future "p-ssies" because of this policy change really doesn't sell me on the OP's point whatsoever. That word is a reference to a body part, and I don't appreciate the comparison of a vagina to weakness. I'm a Masters-educated marathon runner, far from weak, both mentally and physically, and I don't think it does a whole lot for our children to be referred to as such.
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Old 10-31-2013, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Cary
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I'm not buying your point either, quite honestly. The term has nothing to do with a V-jay. You prefer to take it that way--your prerogative--but I take it as referencing society's attitude which is weakening the next generation.
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Sheesh. Whatever happened to "gay," "bad," and "sucks?"

Words and connotations evolve, I guess.
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Containment Area for Relocated Yankees
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I'm not buying your point either, quite honestly. The term has nothing to do with a V-jay. You prefer to take it that way--your prerogative--but I take it as referencing society's attitude which is weakening the next generation.
I can't tell if you're being purposely obtuse or if you genuinely don't realize that George Carlin derived that term from the slang word for vagina.
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:32 PM
 
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Aren't those with "less than admirable" motivation levels just going to get 50's? I don't see how it changes anything for students who are unmotivated...a 50 is still failing.
Agreed. I mentioned that earlier. I don't get the difference, aside from helping kids who DO care so they don't fail or make a very low grade due to one or two missteps throughout the semester.
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:51 PM
 
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Aren't those with "less than admirable" motivation levels just going to get 50's? I don't see how it changes anything for students who are unmotivated...a 50 is still failing.
My boys were the type in high school that would have calculated the cost of not turning something in...
They have both done fine in college but got away with the least amount of work in high school to get decent grades..
I was the same way in high school..Less consequences for missed work would have meant more missed work..
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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My boys were the type in high school that would have calculated the cost of not turning something in...
They have both done fine in college but got away with the least amount of work in high school to get decent grades..
I was the same way in high school..Less consequences for missed work would have meant more missed work..
Really, what you are describing is a behavior and not indicative of their understanding and comprehension of the material. Whether they get zeros or 50's still does nothing to change that behavior, and zeros may make it worse when they realize they can work as hard as they want but can't recover from a couple of uncomoleted assignments.
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