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Old 10-31-2006, 01:32 PM
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Okay, fireplace or nice kitchen? Which one would you pick???
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I think it depends on what you are willing to do after closing. If you lower your costs in the kitchen before closing (with things you can and will upgrade later) so that you can have a fireplace I would do that. People seem to love the fireplace!

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Old 10-31-2006, 02:57 PM
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Default Thanks Leigh!

Thanks for the input. It's nice to have a realtor's point of view. I just want to make sure I am putting in the things that will help sell this house when i'm ready to. At first I didnt want to put in the fireplace because I know I won't use it. But then I said maybe the next buyer will. So many decisions!
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Default same time for us!

We just did the same thing bought one in St. John's forest. We are 1st time buyers and plan on selling in 5 yrs. Our master bathroom sucks and the upgrades are not even good so we kept it basic. If we went with the next model up we lost the bonus room and I think people rather have more space 3 bedroms and a loft then just one big bathroom. We did the fireplace, doing the white railings, 9 ft. ceilings and the bay window bump out. as for options we are keeping it low...pre wiring for fans and outside lights, the nice railings and that is really it. I don't think we need to do anything else. We have a great lot and I think that is important too. Good luck. They really try to sell you but go in with exactly the number you want to spend!
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:13 PM
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Good point about the lot. As a potential buyer the lot means ... well alot to me. I can always upgrade a kitchen or add hard wood floors. But it's going to take 30 years to grow trees. Trees are important to me but maybe not everyone.
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Its difficult to sell a home in Raleigh/Cary without a fireplace. People just expect it and want it even if they don't use it! In the higher price ranges, a fireplace is just included and isn't an option.

Sometimes builders should realize that certain items shouldn't be an option but should be included in the base price, otherwise, they'll soon be charging for toilets!!!

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Old 11-01-2006, 08:43 AM
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Default I vote for the fireplace.

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Okay, fireplace or nice kitchen? Which one would you pick???
I'd pick the fireplace. That's a structural thing that would cost alot to put in later. A kitchen can be upgraded more easily, and most likey with better quality at a lower price than the builder would charge you for that option.
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I tried working with the KB homes sales people in the Park Grove subdivision and it was like pulling teeth to get a price on upgrades. I had figured it would be 45 to 50 grand in upgrades to get what we wanted since everything is an upgrade. But when the best I could get was "ballpark" figures or best guess, I was a little dismayed. I was still willing to wait and talk with the salesperson when i was listening to her give another couple pricing when they were sitting down. The salesperson never committed to a dollar amount for anything. My wife and I walked out. I highly suggest getting a realtor to deal with this company. Every other buider I went to see was more than happy to print out an upgrade sheet with prices on it. We settled on Springhill which is within site of the KB homes. We gave up the awesome kitchen, but feel much better that we got a house from a builder that wasnt trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Also watch out for the Prices are going up mantra that KB pushes. Their list of model prices have the cost now, in two weeks and in 4 weeks, going up 2 to 3 thousand every two weeks. What is up with that?
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Default KB Homes versus SpringHill

We did the same thing as you and also bought in Springhill. We moved in December, the options that we got with Springhill were all free as in the 9 foot ceilings and 42 inch cabinets, double sinks in both baths. The plus for us ws having a 2 story house with the master on the first floor.
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When looking at upgrades, your buyer's agent can help you tremendously in deciding where to put the money and get it back when the time comes to sell. (Again, YOUR buyer's agent, not the builder's representative or design consultant!)

Musts:
42" cabinets in kitchen
Double sink in master bath
At least the garden tub, if not the jets.
Upgrade standard tile
Fireplace


Maybes:
Flooring: A lot depends on how long you plan to be in the house, and how you'll use it. Personally, with two preschoolers and a cat with stomach issues, we weren't spending an extra penny on carpet - we'll replace it before we sell, regardless. Maybe sooner. However, make sure you don't have carpet in high traffic areas, such as a foyer or hallways on the main floor. Many builders extend the hardwoods in the models, but will price it as an upgrade to take it beyond the foyer.

Linoleum: Most people don't like it anywhere in any home over $250k. HOWEVER, the builders know that, and overprice the tile or hardwood upgrades. Get contractor estimates, it may be a better deal to have it done after closing.

Countertops: So much depends on price range when you want to know what future buyers expect. Usually, cultured marble in the bathrooms is fine, but you don't want formica in the kitchen if you're over about that $250k mark.

"Invisible" upgrades: HVAC, hot water heater, insulation, carpet padding, running a gas line for the range or the dryer... These are upgrades that will pay for themselves in energy savings and use in the long run, but because they're not "pretty", most people forget about them. Some of these, the builder will require be paid upfront, possibly non-refundable, because they don't get that back if you bail. Again, your buyer's agent can advise you on these.

Other things like granite vs. corian, wrought iron vs. wood spindles, and decorative tile work are, imo, personal preference. If you plan to stay in the home more than 5-7 years, keep in mind that decorating styles usually go on about a 10 year cycle, so what is stylish now will need updating in 10 years - even that awesome granite, especially if you use a bold color palette. Not everyone agrees with me on this, but before you spend $50k on your kitchen alone, consider the above timeless items first, then with what you have left over, let your inner decorater free.

Things like extending the deck, putting in a screened porch, landscaping... all of that can be done after closing. Go ahead and get estimates from outside contractors if you plan to have those things done.

And no wallpaper.
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