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Old 04-20-2015, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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What happened in metro Atlanta from 1970 to 2000 is precisely relevant to what will happen in the Triangle. At best there is ambivalence in Wake County jurisdictions outside the Raleigh ETJ and at the Wake County Commission itself about using zoning to restrict sprawl. But there is absolutely no interest among the next ring of counties (Johnston, Chatham, etc) in restricting sprawl -- just as there was no willingness in Cobb County, Gwinnett County, etc to restrict sprawl in metro Atlanta.
The folks in Gwinnett and Cobb did not want to pay the extra 1% tax (from 3% to 4%) when MARTA first started. The MARTA lines ended just inside the DeKalb County borders, so everyone from Gwinnett and Cobb would just drive down to the county line and hop on MARTA.

 
Old 04-20-2015, 06:18 AM
 
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Right. And whether enough people in Wake outside the Raleigh ETJ are willing to pay an incremental tax to support a transit system hasn't been established yet, either. I'm sure it will be supported by voters within the Raleigh ETJ, but that's not enough to get it passed in a county-wide vote.

I can't imagine that voters in Johnston, Chatham, etc would be willing to pay an incremental tax for a transit system focused on the oldest sections of adjacent counties. As you say, those that do work in downtown Raleigh (for example) would use intra-Wake transit in the same way that people in Cobb and Gwinnett who work in downtown Atlanta can drive to reach MARTA. Of course, the majority of people who live in Cobb and Gwinett do not work in downtown Atlanta. Employment is distributed across metro Atlanta, in the same way that employment in the greater Triangle is widely distributed.
 
Old 04-20-2015, 10:07 AM
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The folks in Gwinnett and Cobb did not want to pay the extra 1% tax (from 3% to 4%) when MARTA first started. The MARTA lines ended just inside the DeKalb County borders, so everyone from Gwinnett and Cobb would just drive down to the county line and hop on MARTA.
the folks in Gwinnett and Cobb didn't want Marta, period. I'm sure the 1% sales tax played a small part in it, but that was hardly the driving reason.
 
Old 04-20-2015, 10:42 AM
 
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the folks in Gwinnett and Cobb didn't want Marta, period. I'm sure the 1% sales tax played a small part in it, but that was hardly the driving reason.
The unofficial abbreviation by some Atlanta residents for MARTA is "Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta". They don't want the black folks in their well off county.
 
Old 04-20-2015, 01:38 PM
 
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