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Also, for the OP, you probably need to consider neighborhood size also. Breckenridge had over 1000 houses and a much larger pool than where I live now where there are only about 160. More people/houses mean a bigger pool which can usually have more depth variation and they can afford more amenities like lighting and lifeguards. In my current place, we have some lights, but they are not enough to be open after dark according to the Wake Co and State rules. We also do not have attendants or lifeguards, just someone comes by 3 times a day to check the water and look at the restrooms.
That's exactly why one of my questions asked about how many homes are in the subdivision.
In case anyone is interested, the reason for my questions:
Our subdivision of roughly 250 homes has a pretty nice pool and clubhouse. But it gets very little usage. It has no deep water and has no lifeguards. The rules are very strict - so much so that I believe folks just choose to join a swim club or avoid the facility altogether. Even with the sparse usage, they also make it very clear to state: "GUESTS ARE LIMITED TO 2 PER HOUSEHOLD PER THE RULES." So, when my sister, her husband and 3 kids visit us from Texas, we can't take them all to the pool? From what the management company has told me, no.
I understand the precautions for safety and the potential for liability. But all owners must sign a hold-harmless agreement before they can receive their key to the facility. We pay an awful lot for the upkeep and maintenance of the pool but it seems the HOA board is just so scared of any risks that they would rather see the pool go largely unused. I'm not sure I get it.
That's exactly why one of my questions asked about how many homes are in the subdivision.
In case anyone is interested, the reason for my questions:
Our subdivision of roughly 250 homes has a pretty nice pool and clubhouse. But it gets very little usage. It has no deep water and has no lifeguards. The rules are very strict - so much so that I believe folks just choose to join a swim club or avoid the facility altogether. Even with the sparse usage, they also make it very clear to state: "GUESTS ARE LIMITED TO 2 PER HOUSEHOLD PER THE RULES." So, when my sister, her husband and 3 kids visit us from Texas, we can't take them all to the pool? From what the management company has told me, no.
I understand the precautions for safety and the potential for liability. But all owners must sign a hold-harmless agreement before they can receive their key to the facility. We pay an awful lot for the upkeep and maintenance of the pool but it seems the HOA board is just so scared of any risks that they would rather see the pool go largely unused. I'm not sure I get it.
Sorry, so many questions, I missed that you asked about neighborhood size.
I would definitely push them on it. It does sound like they are being more strict than is needed. A strict 2 guest limit is pretty silly for exactly the reason you stated. Is it certain these rules are due to the board or is it the management company? I have seen boards go along with managers before when if they had just raised a question, there is no issue and things are done differently. Attend meetings and raise the question. Run for the board. It's really easy to just have an HOA fall into a rut and no one runs for the board and the same people get stuck doing it by default and no one ever thinks to do things differently, not by malice, just the way it's always done. A second hold harmless agreement is probably overkill as unless you have really poorly crafted documents, that is covered there already.
Neighborhoods with 250, 160 homes like ours are in a tough spot. It is not like it costs that much more or less to simply maintain the pool if it's bigger or smaller but the smaller the neighborhood the smaller piece of land the developer can reasonably tie up for the pool when they could make several tens of thousands to sell each lot it takes up, plus the maintenance cost is spread over far fewer houses.
Personally I would just ignore the 2 guest limit in your specific situation unless someone starts complaining,
We can be in the pool area after hours if we get permission for instance we used to meet there for bunco. We don't have a clubhouse. I know breckenridge still rents their clubhouse.
Personally I would just ignore the 2 guest limit in your specific situation unless someone starts complaining,
This would be my advice. You said the pool gets limited usage as is, so who would notice if you brought some extra people with. I would think as long as nobody is disruptive or causes any damage it would not be noticed.
To answer you original post. I am in a neighborhood or 110 houses we have a pool that goes to a depth of 5 feet. No life guards the pool is closed at dark and is not rented out. I am not sure what our guest policy is but I would bring my group and ask for forgiveness later if anyone balked.
Personally I would just ignore the 2 guest limit in your specific situation unless someone starts complaining,
Me too.
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