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Old 07-08-2015, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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"We are under a serious threat," she said. "This new plan does not guarantee that black people are going to be living in historically black neighborhoods."
Uhhh.....I thought the big push in the country was to eliminate segregation?
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Old 07-08-2015, 08:25 AM
 
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May I also add this matter to the conversation, that seems to be part of rezoning plan?

http://www.city-data.com/forum/ralei...evisiting.html
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Old 07-08-2015, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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if it matters, someone brought the riparian buffer topic up last week.

as to Octavia Rainey, I do find the word use perplexing .... what SHOULD "guarantee" that something happens in the future?

Is she proud that "historically black" areas now are dilapidated and in poor condition, often owned by slumlords or a large group of absentee relatives that don't spend a dime on maintenance?
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Old 07-08-2015, 09:01 AM
 
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While not exactly apples to apples, Garner has been dealing with this since the DOT decided that the red route was an option. Never mind that development has been taking place for 20 years based on a plan for the orange route. Then to bait and switch, locking up peoples property for years and years because of an uncertain future. Not sure if you house is going to be bulldozed or not and can't sell because people are afraid of the same thing... This rezoning seems similar in some respects.
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Old 07-08-2015, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Sodo Sopa at The Villas above Kenny' s House.
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While not exactly apples to apples, Garner has been dealing with this since the DOT decided that the red route was an option. Never mind that development has been taking place for 20 years based on a plan for the orange route. Then to bait and switch, locking up peoples property for years and years because of an uncertain future. Not sure if you house is going to be bulldozed or not and can't sell because people are afraid of the same thing... This rezoning seems similar in some respects.
Thank you for that. Not being a homeowner but living in Garner I've never really thought about the 540 thing. That right there might explain lower home values compared to the other suburbs. Distance from RTP dictates price a lot but that might help explain discrepancies like Clayton being more expensive then Garner. Even within Garner the development is all happening going 70east towards Clayton and off hwy 42 which is opposite of most areas IME.
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Old 07-08-2015, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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the 4 year old preposterous idea of running 540 through the middle of Garner to save a few mussels has nothing to do with Garner's property values and desirability lagging.

Now, that dumb red route has certainly made it very difficult for property owners in its path to sell, since it is not absolute yet.
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Old 07-08-2015, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Charlotte NC
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Just seems odd of this all happing at once. Developers should try and blend in new developments with existing structures. For some reason I see this as something bigger down the road. I don't want what's going on in Noda to happen in Raleigh. I'm all for development but not at the expensive of removing a mom and pop shop or displacing residents for a quick buck. With this new rezoning plan and the ending of protest petitions it just screams for big box developments in Raleigh and the rest of the state.
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Old 07-09-2015, 01:45 AM
 
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Development is turning Raleigh into an overcrowded piece of junk aimed at the over moneyed transplants running away from the north.

Traditional middle class residents and minorities will be pushed out as in NYC.

Local businesses will give way to strip malls full of national franchises.

Is this what we need?
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Old 07-09-2015, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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Just seems odd of this all happing at once. Developers should try and blend in new developments with existing structures. For some reason I see this as something bigger down the road. I don't want what's going on in Noda to happen in Raleigh. I'm all for development but not at the expensive of removing a mom and pop shop or displacing residents for a quick buck. With this new rezoning plan and the ending of protest petitions it just screams for big box developments in Raleigh and the rest of the state.
It is not odd, it's completely normal. Cities need to look at long term plans every few years and adjust, this is what they are doing. This is to make the actual zoning ordinance fall in line with the UDO, that was passed a couple years ago. This process started in late 2014 as well, so while this is the first public hearing, it is far from the first chance to learn about and comment on the process. The city has comment sessions multiple times and the planning commission has voted on those changes and incorporated many of them. Here is some info about it.
https://www.raleighnc.gov/business/c...Remapping.html
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