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Old 10-06-2015, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Oxxford Hunt, Cary NC
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In other news.. THE SUN IS OUT RIGHT THIS VERY MINUTE AND THERE IS NO RAIN IN THE FORECAST FOR THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS.

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Old 10-06-2015, 10:06 AM
 
Location: West Raleigh
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Really? Because I see winter storms being named the last couple of years. They want it to trend like "superstorm Sandy" and get more eyeballs. It's really stupid.
Ugh, you're prickly today, aren't you?

I was already corrected that the discussion was more about naming of winter storms than of tropical storms and hurricanes and I agreed that naming winter storms was silly.

But yes, non-media organizations name tropical storms and hurricanes, though I'm not sure who attached the "superstorm" part to Sandy...
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Old 10-06-2015, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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In the specific case of Sandy, it was a hurricane or tropical storm but the rules at the time meant it was stripped of its status for some technical reason (I honestly don't remember the specifics, seems like it was because it didn't meet some of the measures on the scale, but remember there being some controversy), but since it was still dangerous the media called it a superstorm. I thought I remember some talk of changing the rules though for future events.
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Old 10-06-2015, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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In the specific case of Sandy, it was a hurricane or tropical storm but the rules at the time meant it was stripped of its status for some technical reason (I honestly don't remember the specifics, seems like it was because it didn't meet some of the measures on the scale, but remember there being some controversy), but since it was still dangerous the media called it a superstorm. I thought I remember some talk of changing the rules though for future events.
Tropical systems have a central core of convection/rain/wind. Sandy took on extra-tropical characteristics as it moved north into cooler waters. Winds and rains far outstretched the core of the storm, so it became more like a noreaster/hurricane hybrid. Not sure what it's official classification was at "landfall".

This is what Joaquin is doing right now in the Atlantic as it barrels toward the UK. It is not it should complete it's extratropical transition in the next 36 hrs per the National Hurricane Center.

Hurricane JOAQUIN Forecast Discussion

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HURRICANE JOAQUIN DISCUSSION NUMBER 36
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL112015
1100 AM AST TUE OCT 06 2015

Joaquin is in a state of gradual decay. Although an eye feature is
still occasionally visible, there has been some erosion of the
inner-core deep convection. A series of microwaves images this
morning indicate some eastward tilt of the vortex with height, and
there is evidence of dry air entrainment into the inner core. Dvorak
intensity estimates are slowly decreasing, and the initial wind
speed is reduced to 70 kt. An increase in southwesterly shear and
cooler waters along Joaquin's track should cause further weakening
during the next few days. Cooler and drier air behind a low-level
baroclinic zone currently draped to the north of the cyclone should
gradually be advected into Joaquin's circulation during the next 24
to 48 hours, and extratropical transition is expected to be complete
in about 36 hours. The new intensity forecast is near the
multi-model consensus through 36 hours and then a bit above that
after that time.

Recent fixes indicate that Joaquin has is accelerating
northeastward, and the initial motion estimate is 055/16. The
cyclone is expected to further accelerate toward the east-northeast
as it becomes fully embedded in a belt of nearly zonal middle- to
upper-tropospheric flow during the next few days. After
extratropical transition, Joaquin should experience a significant
deceleration when it approaches the British Isles. The track
guidance is tightly clustered through 48 hours, with somewhat
greater spread after that time. The new track forecast is about the
same as the previous one and lies near the multi-model consensus for
the remainder of the forecast period.
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