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Old 10-29-2015, 11:32 AM
 
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I'm a fan of public transit, but this article provides a sobering look at the struggles of getting people to embrace it in smaller sized cities. Even Charlotte, which some point to as a success is highlighted by the fact that ridership has not grown much over the years. It's an interesting read for those of us who would like to see light rail here in the Triangle.

Nashville, Charlotte, and Other Small Cities Struggle to Build Public Transit and Attract Riders - The Atlantic

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Old 10-29-2015, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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Well, supposedly light rail is dead here anyway in favor of buses. Not sure how final the recent decision is and how long a time horizon.

Personally I'm fine with increasing bus service, but without fixed infrastructure to plan and build around its not a good way of spending the money, IMO.
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Old 10-29-2015, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Baltimore MD
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I would still consider Charlotte's light rail successful. The argument they make is because it's ridership is the same as since its opened it isn't valuable, but that is nearly 20k ridership a day that take advantage of it and has spurred TONS of development along the lightrail.
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Old 10-29-2015, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Research Triangle, NC
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I think in Charlotte's case, the same line serves the same people and the same destinations, so everyone who wants to ride it frequently is probably doing so.

It's a bit late in the game now, but I think Charlotte did itself and its citizens a disservice by not prioritizing the airport over the South Blvd corridor.
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Old 10-29-2015, 01:56 PM
 
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I would still consider Charlotte's light rail successful. The argument they make is because it's ridership is the same as since its opened it isn't valuable, but that is nearly 20k ridership a day that take advantage of it and has spurred TONS of development along the lightrail.
The line is also not complete from downtown to UNCC yet. Once that opens up I think tons of students will be riding it to go out downtown without having to drive.
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Old 10-29-2015, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Sodo Sopa at The Villas above Kenny' s House.
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Biggest obstacle here is that riding a bus is seen as low class,dangerous and inconvenient. Having at least two of those on any given route doesn't help to dispel the theory. Raleighs current bus system is designed for riders without their own transportation. It's not set up or appealing for riders who could use it as an alternative to taking a car. I don't see many tax payers past age 35,really getting behind any kind of mass transportation as long as they still have the option to drive.
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Old 10-29-2015, 03:47 PM
 
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I think in Charlotte's case, the same line serves the same people and the same destinations, so everyone who wants to ride it frequently is probably doing so.

It's a bit late in the game now, but I think Charlotte did itself and its citizens a disservice by not prioritizing the airport over the South Blvd corridor.
Charlotte's current rail line serves what has traditionally had the lowest transit usage area in the city & the extension to UNCC not only upgrades one of the highest bus corridors but also has high express bus usage. While service to the airport would be nice, in reality you can get Uptown from the airport in 15-20 minutes & ridership on the current route is low
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Old 10-29-2015, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Wake Forest, NY
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With driverless cars,buses and trucks on the horizon the idea of light rail is so last century.
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Old 10-30-2015, 04:25 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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With driverless cars,buses and trucks on the horizon the idea of light rail is so last century.
I don't think so.
How will driverless cars reduce congestion?
How will people who don't want to own a car benefit from driverless cars?
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Old 10-30-2015, 04:59 AM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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The school carpool culture here is a real detriment to people using mass transit. There are too many people who put their kids in the car, drop them off at school then head to work. I'm originally from NY, where NOBODY drives their kids to school on a regular basis, the schools aren't set up to handle carpool traffic. People take the bus or walk or they have to find a place to park their car and walk their kids in anyway (often on a nearby street). Of course WCPSS transportation isn't necessarily reliable on a regular basis so it's a vicious cycle. But you're never gonna get all those school carpoolers off the road.
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