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Old 11-09-2015, 02:20 PM
 
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We are in Orange County Schools. Also, they do say that it's optional, so you can opt out. But still, I don't feel like I should have to do that. I don't want to be mean mom who doesn't let my kid do the fun thing everyone else is doing. Also, it's a personalized letter *from* Santa to each kid, not like a writing assignment where the kid writes a letter *to* Santa.
so you want to be mom who makes sure nobody can do the 'fun thing'? Even if their parents are OK with it?
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Old 11-09-2015, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Hillsborough
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so you want to be mom who makes sure nobody can do the 'fun thing'? Even if their parents are OK with it?
I just said it made me uncomfortable. I didn't say that I'm planning a protest outside the school or something.
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Old 11-09-2015, 02:29 PM
 
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I have absolutely no dog in this fight, but think it's interesting that while Santa is very obviously a Christmas thing, the people I know that reject/dislike him the most are super conservative Christians.

Can't win for losing...
I was thinking the exact same thing. I've been in a Christian church environment (all over the East coast) for over 40 years, and now raising a son in local Raleigh church, and I don't ever recall having Santa mentioned in a favorable light. In fact, I don't recall a church we have attended in the last 10 years ever mentioning it directly one way or the other.

And for the record, as a Christian, I've also never gone door to door, never thumped anyone over the head with a Bible (most people in contemporary churches have switched to a Bible app on a phone / tablet anyway), told anyone they were going to Hell out of the blue, tried to convert a Muslim co-worker or friend, etc. etc

However, I have no issue mentioning church related activities when having water-cooler talk at the office about what we did over the weekend, in a manner such as "Our church small group did this charity activity on Saturday". I fail to see how that is any different than someone telling me they got together with a friends to play bunko, or more commonly around here, some story about a group of friends going to a college football game. I'm not at all offended by my Muslim co-workers who take time to pray on Friday afternoon, or a Wicccan friend who regularly posts Wiccan prayers (chants?) on FaceBook. I just don't understand the sensitivity to the mere mention of church in casual conversation.

Sweeping generalizations on either side of issues such as this are always scary to me.
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Old 11-09-2015, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Chapelboro
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Adventive, in 2nd grade in CHCCS my kid learned about all the holidays. She did have Muslim and Jewish kids in the class and also pagan, etc. They did Christmas, Hannukah, Yule, Solstice, Kwanzaa, and one of the Muslim holidays (the kid doesn't remember, but maybe Eid al-Fitr — the dad of a Muslim girl in the class did a presentation, as did other parents for the other holidays). I thought it was very appropriate and still festive.
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Old 11-09-2015, 03:18 PM
 
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At least you're honest about sensitivity.

I just don't see how anyone could consider santa religious, it's like the easter bunny.
Not really. Think about it. "He knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you're awake, he knows when you've been bad or good..."

The Easter bunny just goes hippity hop. Santa is an all-knowing being somewhere far, far away who wants you to be good and you will be rewarded if you are.

Still, I wonder why parents get so upset, although I do support their personal wishes. When I was a kid, although we were Jewish, my parents let me decorate my best friend's tree and even eat ham at her house. They were in no way liberal, and made it clear that we celebrated Chanukkah and lit a menorah, but decorating trees and singing Christmas carols were just part of the neighborhood activities during the holiday season. I even sat on Santa's lap during the neighborhood block party.
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Old 11-09-2015, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Hillsborough
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Adventive, in 2nd grade in CHCCS my kid learned about all the holidays. She did have Muslim and Jewish kids in the class and also pagan, etc. They did Christmas, Hannukah, Yule, Solstice, Kwanzaa, and one of the Muslim holidays (the kid doesn't remember, but maybe Eid al-Fitr — the dad of a Muslim girl in the class did a presentation, as did other parents for the other holidays). I thought it was very appropriate and still festive.
I agree that is appropriate. In our school my older daughter has learned about Christmas, Hannukah, and Kwanzaa one year, though they did not do the rest that you mention. I think it would be great if they added those too.
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Old 11-09-2015, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Downtown Raleigh
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so you want to be mom who makes sure nobody can do the 'fun thing'? Even if their parents are OK with it?
But it's not an *education* thing. Being the mom who expects the school to operate constitutionally and to focus on education is not the same as being the mom who makes sure nobody can do the fun thing. There are plenty of fun things to do that don't exclude children who don't belong to the majority religion.
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Old 11-09-2015, 05:10 PM
 
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You think Christians worship santa?
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Old 11-09-2015, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Downtown Raleigh
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I'm not saying that it's rational that Santa Claus is a part of Christians' celebration of their holiday of Christmas. But Santa *is* a part of Christians' celebration of their holiday of Christmas.
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Old 11-09-2015, 05:29 PM
 
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I'm not saying that it's rational that Santa Claus is a part of Christians' celebration of their holiday of Christmas. But Santa *is* a part of Christians' celebration of their holiday of Christmas.
You sure about that?

So what are the non Christians observing Christmas with Santa doing exactly?
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