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View Poll Results: I see the need for better public transport in the triangle area
Yes - improve buses 19 26.03%
Naah - whats in place is good enough 1 1.37%
Dont care - I prefer to drive or I WFH 21 28.77%
Yes - but with monorail/train 32 43.84%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-12-2016, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The Triangle needs to take a closer look at PDX and learn from their light rail system. They too are a multiple county metroplex that was able to work together to bring light rail from the suburbs into downtown. The Triangle could have a main line from Durham through RTP to Raleigh, then from there add additional lines to connect to the main line. Using existing roads to lay tracks can be done. Light rail tends to attract riders from all walks of life, not just the poor. But since it does cost money, most taxpayers will not be in favor. We want services, we just do not want to pay for them.
I think light rail absolutely makes sense - connecting on to the Durham-Chapel Hill line by RTP/RDU to Cary to Raleigh would do a great job providing a traffic free connection to all major employment centers. Unfortunately now we have commuter rail in Wake County and light rail in Orange/Durham County, two incompatible rail systems.
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Old 09-12-2016, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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I think light rail absolutely makes sense - connecting on to the Durham-Chapel Hill line by RTP/RDU to Cary to Raleigh would do a great job providing a traffic free connection to all major employment centers. Unfortunately now we have commuter rail in Wake County and light rail in Orange/Durham County, two incompatible rail systems.
It is too bad that the counties could not work together and plan out a system that would be compatible with one another.
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Old 09-12-2016, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Update: I retract on my OP ...
Sorry.
You can no more "retract" throwing up than a guy who hurls his wings.
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Old 09-13-2016, 09:26 AM
 
Location: West Raleigh
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I think light rail absolutely makes sense - connecting on to the Durham-Chapel Hill line by RTP/RDU to Cary to Raleigh would do a great job providing a traffic free connection to all major employment centers. Unfortunately now we have commuter rail in Wake County and light rail in Orange/Durham County, two incompatible rail systems.
I dunno if I'd call them "incompatible" rail systems. While they don't run on the same tracks and a transfer would be necessary in downtown Durham, they'll still run in coordinated schedules and make trips easier for them.

Since a LRT line going from Raleigh ->Cary -> Durham -> Chapel Hill would be prohibitive in many ways as we're stretching the length limits of a LRT line with the 17 miles between Durham and Chapel Hill as it is* I think the solution to have two different types of trains is a good one, or at least one of the best solutions (though there may be others) that could be presented.


*LRT traditionally has somewhat lower operating speeds and more frequent stops than CRT, making it less suitable for longer distances because the lower speed plus the more frequent stops pushes total travel time to the extreme over a good distance
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Old 09-13-2016, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I dunno if I'd call them "incompatible" rail systems. While they don't run on the same tracks and a transfer would be necessary in downtown Durham, they'll still run in coordinated schedules and make trips easier for them.

Since a LRT line going from Raleigh ->Cary -> Durham -> Chapel Hill would be prohibitive in many ways as we're stretching the length limits of a LRT line with the 17 miles between Durham and Chapel Hill as it is* I think the solution to have two different types of trains is a good one, or at least one of the best solutions (though there may be others) that could be presented.


*LRT traditionally has somewhat lower operating speeds and more frequent stops than CRT, making it less suitable for longer distances because the lower speed plus the more frequent stops pushes total travel time to the extreme over a good distance
Yeah that really isn't my main concern - I am curious about what the schedule of such a commuter rail line would be and how frequent it would run.
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Old 09-13-2016, 01:05 PM
 
Location: West Raleigh
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Yeah that really isn't my main concern - I am curious about what the schedule of such a commuter rail line would be and how frequent it would run.
In the Wake County Plan, the CRT is envisioned to run 8 trips each way in the morning peak (8 going Durham/Cary/Raleigh/Garner, another 8 going Garner/Raleigh/Cary/Durham), 2 each way in the middle of the day, 8 each way in the afternoon peak and then 2 each way in the evening.

So that'd be like 8 trains each way spread out between say, 6:00 am and 9:00 am, 2 trains each way between 10:00 am and maybe 3:00 pm, another 8 trains each way between 4:00 pm and 7:00 pm and then 2 more each way after 7:00 pm.

There's not a set schedule for exactly what times that'll be yet though - that probably wont happen until way down the road or at least much farther down the road (tracks? ).
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Old 09-14-2016, 12:01 AM
 
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And how moot is that, the time to get something like that up and running would take years.

Though if it were available now I would certainly use it.
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Old 09-14-2016, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Saw this earlier today - over the next 25 years, the City of Charlotte will need to spend $5 billion to keep up with transportation needs (not adjusted for inflation) - Expecting 400,000 new Charlotteans, CDOT projects $5B in transportation needs | PlanCharlotte.org
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:55 AM
 
Location: West Raleigh
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And how moot is that, the time to get something like that up and running would take years.

Though if it were available now I would certainly use it.
So we should just continue to let things get worse and do nothing? Yes, things will take a while to be put in place but I think the benefits and the reduction of future problems are worth the wait.
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