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Old 11-15-2015, 07:25 AM
 
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Important to remember that even statistical significance is not proof of a causal relationship.
Isn't that exactly what statistical significance is? I would change casual relationship to correlation however since I am not familiar with casual relationship as a scientific term (maybe it is?).
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Old 11-15-2015, 07:51 AM
 
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How else you gonna take home another 500 dollar prize? Need to spend money to make money!

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Old 11-15-2015, 09:13 AM
 
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Isn't that exactly what statistical significance is? I would change casual relationship to correlation however since I am not familiar with casual relationship as a scientific term (maybe it is?).
No, it's not. In research work there is a mathematical definition of statistical significance. In layman's terms it could be thought of presented as proof that a valid correlation does truly exist (as opposed to the numbers being what they are by some coincidence).

It does not do anything to identify the root CAUSE of why the numbers are the way they are.

Let's say someone comes up with a study that illustrates a correlation between brain surgeons and ownership of homes in excess of 6000 square feet. Assuming the numbers are right, statistical significance might reassure us that the connection between brain surgeons and large homes does in fact exist. But it doesn't tell us anything about WHY that connection exists.

I chose a silly/simple example for ease of explanation here, but in this case most people would assume the CAUSE of the connection is simply higher income = potentially larger homes. But what if someone comes along and shows a statistically significant correlation between another high-income profession and smaller homes, or the statistical significance illustrated above simply doesn't hold up for other professions of same income level? Then one might theorize there is another cause, like maybe brain surgeons work in tight spaces with their hands and thus feel a psychological need for more personal space in their living areas?

In other words that the fact a relationship exists can be proven does not prove WHY that relationship exists.
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:03 AM
 
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Isn't that exactly what statistical significance is? I would change casual relationship to correlation however since I am not familiar with casual relationship as a scientific term (maybe it is?).
Also, I had my browser in a small font at the time I read your post and missed the typo. Just in case the position of the letters S and U threw anyone else, please note I've been talking about causal relationships, not casual ones.
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Old 11-16-2015, 01:28 PM
 
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Summer childcare is actually cheaper than year round. My son goes to The Hunt Center in Holly Springs (Part of Holly Springs Parks and Rec) and it's $150/week for track out care. In the summer, that same camp is $70/week!!
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Old 11-19-2015, 07:04 PM
 
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yeah I read casual not causal big difference there. oOops
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