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Old 11-18-2015, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Holly Springs, NC
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Is it just me, or does everyone else avoid that area like the plague?
No doubt, I absolutely won't even think about going to the Crabtree area until after January.
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Old 11-22-2015, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Is it just me, or does everyone else avoid that area like the plague?
I was there, yesterday. It was busy but I still got parking right in front of Macy's (upstairs)!

Makes me laugh every time I remember all the articles about "malls are a thing of the past"!!!

Sometimes it is nice to just walk around the mall when it is decorated and feels like Christmas!
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Old 11-22-2015, 04:31 PM
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I went in my first week here just to check it out. I'll go back if I need to go to the Apple store or shop at one of the big stores, but that's about it.
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Old 11-22-2015, 06:08 PM
 
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Hoverboards, hopefully.
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Old 11-23-2015, 05:00 AM
 
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Is it just me, or does everyone else avoid that area like the plague?
Like the old Yogi Berra line: "No one goes there anymore; it's too crowded."
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Old 11-23-2015, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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We will begin to see the effects of the many developments approved in the area over the last few years without much a coordinated vision for Crabtree Valley. I think this is shortsighted because there will be even less opportunity to get it right.
So, how exactly do you propose the city coordinates the efforts of dozens of different landowners, all with differing agendas and cost basis in their land. Some of which have existing buildings some of which have raw land?
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Old 11-23-2015, 06:26 AM
 
Location: My House
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I was there, yesterday. It was busy but I still got parking right in front of Macy's (upstairs)!

Makes me laugh every time I remember all the articles about "malls are a thing of the past"!!!

Sometimes it is nice to just walk around the mall when it is decorated and feels like Christmas!
I like it decorated, too. I avoid malls between Thanksgiving and New Year's unless it's midweek, middle of the day stuff.
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Old 11-23-2015, 02:54 PM
 
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So, how exactly do you propose the city coordinates the efforts of dozens of different landowners, all with differing agendas and cost basis in their land. Some of which have existing buildings some of which have raw land?
Crabtree Valley is mentioned in a chapter of the 2030 Comprehensive Plan. It creates policies for pedestrian circulation, open space, and design unity. The Crabtree Valley Transportation Plan (2011) goes into more detail about sidewalks, improvements to Crabtree Valley Avenue including an interchange with I-440, reduction of traffic signals on Glenwood, etc. Both of these documents incorporated comments from the public and stakeholders.


I suggest something more comprehensive for the Crabtree Valley area that would result in a guiding document for development. The city would implement this through zoning (which is how the city already coordinates the efforts of landowners) and infrastructure improvement. The amount of proposed development will have a huge impact on this area and with the right attention could have an even greater return for the city than North Hills. Continuing to develop in a suburban pattern shortchanges that return.
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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The businesses near Lenox Square mall in Atlanta joined together to improve the streetscape, bury power lines and add trees and sidewalks. Countless unsightly corridors in Atlanta and Raleigh could use this type of makeover.



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Crabtree should renovate its interior to be more upscale like Lenox. (I'm not cheerleading for these two Atlanta entities, they just turned out well in my opinion.) Replace the interior drywall with some marble and a sophisticated color palette like Lenox's sage green and voila.

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Old 11-24-2015, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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I think it will start going up up up. Also I believe they will have to redesign the belt line intersection to make it flow. If they ever decide to do light rail, this will be a prime stop.

I think it will start looking mor like North Hills in places, but most similar to South Park in Charlotte. I believe at some point new shopping destinations will pop up on the Edwards mill side and back behind the mall.
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