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Old 04-20-2012, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Raleigh-Durham/Triangle
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I also looked into leasing a spot early on, but my jaw dropped at the rent they are charging.... They are very behind schedule in filling the stores. I really hope the center can attract some quality businesses. I know they had a North Hills concept. I am glad this old eyesore was fixed up. It looks nice now... Just too empty.
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:22 AM
 
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Maybe if someone literally laughed at them when they quoted a lease price they'd get the hint they're charging too much
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Old 06-04-2017, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Beautiful and sanitary DC
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I agree with the poster who said the "shape" of waverly place is a downfall. It can't accomodate a large box-store, etc.
FWIW, there is room for a big box -- Waverly Place was originally designed for a two-story department store, facing "the promenade" between the Italian and Mexican restaurants. That site's now just a parking lot, but would make an interesting site for a tall office building or full-service hotel.
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Old 06-04-2017, 05:42 PM
 
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Lingering problem:
outsiders that drive by the place have NO CLUE what businesses are there, thanks to Cary's sign restrictions.
Yet, they still sign up tenants: Search Results for “waverly” – CaryCitizen


I meet folks at KBA concerts that have no what is at that corner!
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Old 06-05-2017, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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Lingering problem:
outsiders that drive by the place have NO CLUE what businesses are there, thanks to Cary's sign restrictions.
Yet, they still sign up tenants: Search Results for “waverly” – CaryCitizen


I meet folks at KBA concerts that have no what is at that corner!
Given the layout of that center, what kind of sign would make it clear what tenants are where? Maybe a 50 foot obelisk with 40 small names on it followed by different signs throughout with 10 names each and arrows. And please show me some signs in Raleigh and Durham or other places in the triangle with a sign that would work for this? Even when these types of signs are allowed, usually the top few tenants are on them and that's it. The random single bay sandwich shop can't get on.

This whole Cary sign ordinance whine is lazy and just plain wrong whenever it's applied and especially the case here where the center has multiple levels and in most places is set well lower and behind outbuildings from a busy intersection that angles most cars on a way they are not looking at it. If each space had a balloon floating directly overhead, it still would be hard to tell where things are.
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Old 06-05-2017, 06:34 AM
 
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Lingering problem:
outsiders that drive by the place have NO CLUE what businesses are there, thanks to Cary's sign restrictions.
Yet, they still sign up tenants: Search Results for “waverly” – CaryCitizen


I meet folks at KBA concerts that have no what is at that corner!
And yet, Waverly seems to stay solidly busy despite this "lingering problem."

Doesn't seem like it's been that much of a problem.
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Old 06-05-2017, 06:40 AM
 
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Personally I find the lack of garish signs refreshing, though it would have made things more difficult before GPS.
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Old 06-05-2017, 06:44 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Lingering problem:
outsiders that drive by the place have NO CLUE what businesses are there, thanks to Cary's sign restrictions.
Yet, they still sign up tenants: Search Results for “waverly” – CaryCitizen


I meet folks at KBA concerts that have no what is at that corner!
People have smartphones now and many people actually use them to figure out what's around them.
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Old 06-05-2017, 06:54 AM
 
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People have smartphones now and many people actually use them to figure out what's around them.
Yep. They don't really need to rely on 'drive-by' traffic anymore.
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Old 06-05-2017, 12:02 PM
 
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People have smartphones now and many people actually use them to figure out what's around them.
Hah! There's a demographic that still uses flip-phones, have their houses paid for, travel a lot, and have loads of disposable income and have no clue what is at that corner besides some over-priced groceries.

They (friends) were shocked to see what all was there during one of the free Wednesday night concerts in the summer.

It's still an architectural mess.

Park West got it right for sure!
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