N&O - Raleigh grows fast, but not well as developers set the standards (Cameron: apartment, rentals)
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well, the folks that live in each and every ring are sure to protest the amount of development in their little ring, and laud the idea of increased development and affordable housing in other rings.
I see plenty of stubs in subdivisions for additional connectivity later when neighboring land is developed. That does not mean that cul-de-sacs shouldn't have a place. Cul-de-sacs are highly desired and the developer can charge more for the lots.
Are we talking about the urban downtown area or suburban areas? If the latter, by forcing traffic through suburban neighborhoods you'll be removing what draws a lot of people and families to the area. Good in some people's opinion, but bad for the Triangle as a whole.
I personally don't care for cul-de-sacs but I agree with Bo that it has no relation to the article lol
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Originally Posted by m378
Are we talking about the urban downtown area or suburban areas? If the latter, by forcing traffic through suburban neighborhoods you'll be removing what draws a lot of people and families to the area. Good in some people's opinion, but bad for the Triangle as a whole.
Raleigh doesn't really have an "urban downtown area" yet. If you look at the density of some parts of downtown Raleigh, it's still technically the density of a "suburban area" haha
Raleigh doesn't really have an "urban downtown area". If you look at the density of Glenwood South, it's still technically the density of a "suburban area" haha
I stand corrected - there are a few neighborhoods that I found that meet the criteria for "urban density" here in Raleigh:
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It eventually will be considered selfish to negatively impact the region as a whole just for the luxury of not having to keep as close an eye on your children and having three sides of natural buffer separating/protecting your home from the city you choose to live in.
It will eventually be considered an example of mob-narcissism when cul-de-sacs are considered to "negatively" impact the region as a whole, simply because one vocal group doesn't like them.
And I don't think most people really chose this area as their paradise to live in. They live here because there is a job market for their particular line of work, and they need to be able to make a living. That doesn't mean they should be sentenced to day in and day out noise from streets well traveled.
I don't understand why any reasonable human being would have a problem with choices? If you like urban living, buy into those options. If you like suburban living and cul-de-sacs, then buy on a cul-de-sac. They aren't hurting anyone.
I don't know how it is there in Atlanta (assuming your profile is correct), but I've lived in half a dozen cul-de-sac neighborhoods in my lifetime, and never witnessed a significant traffic bottleneck that had anything to do with the volume of cars coming in and out of any of the neighborhoods. At most, maybe 2 or 3 cars at a stop sign to turn onto the main road during peak traffic, during absolute worst conditions, but nothing amount to a bottleneck on the neighborhood road or the main roads they were turning on to. I have seen an accident caused by a bat out of hell driver on a main road, but the fact there were cul-de-sacs a few streets over wouldn't have helped that one.
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It will eventually be considered an example of mob-narcissism when cul-de-sacs are considered to "negatively" impact the region as a whole, simply because one vocal group doesn't like them.
And I don't think most people really chose this area as their paradise to live in. They live here because there is a job market for their particular line of work, and they need to be able to make a living. That doesn't mean they should be sentenced to day in and day out noise from streets well traveled.
I don't understand why any reasonable human being would have a problem with choices? If you like urban living, buy into those options. If you like suburban living and cul-de-sacs, then buy on a cul-de-sac. They aren't hurting anyone.
I don't know how it is there in Atlanta (assuming your profile is correct), but I've lived in half a dozen cul-de-sac neighborhoods in my lifetime, and never witnessed a significant traffic bottleneck that had anything to do with the volume of cars coming in and out of any of the neighborhoods. At most, maybe 2 or 3 cars at a stop sign to turn onto the main road during peak traffic, during absolute worst conditions, but nothing amount to a bottleneck on the neighborhood road or the main roads they were turning on to. I have seen an accident caused by a bat out of hell driver on a main road, but the fact there were cul-de-sacs a few streets over wouldn't have helped that one.
My neighborhood has a few cul de sacs. I have never waited behind another car to exit this neighborhood, that I can recall.
Granted, my neighborhood is small. Maybe ban cul de sacs for huge neighborhoods that don't have enough exit points?
I mean, Preston is huge and has dozens of cul de sacs, and I never see exit traffic backed up leaving there, but there are also plenty of exits.
Not sure cul de sacs are the culprit here.
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