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Old 04-07-2017, 08:53 AM
 
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Has anyone ever successfully had a stream reclassified from intermittent to ephemeral? (I know this is rather a technical question.) I ask because I'm looking at a property that has a drainage culvert for stormwater that dumps into a ditch about 25 feet short of the property line, and it causes a Jordan Buffer impingement on the property.

However, being a stormwater ditch, it only ever has water in it after rain. To complicate matters, it may have been a stream bed before the land was developed, meaning that it will have some stream-like features from 50 or more years ago, a blink in a geological timescale.
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Old 04-07-2017, 10:17 AM
 
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It sounds from your description though that is is intermittent. As I understand it ephemeral would be a once a year thing, always at the same time? You are right in that you need to look up the technical/declared meaning as far as classifications go.
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Old 04-07-2017, 10:39 AM
 
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Best to either go straight to the NC Department of Environmental Quality or to a private firm like soil and environmental consultants and pose the question to them. My gut says if it is already classified as intermittent and in the Jordan Buffer, then chances are extraordinarily slim, but you never know til you ask.
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Old 04-10-2017, 02:27 PM
 
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It sounds from your description though that is is intermittent. As I understand it ephemeral would be a once a year thing, always at the same time? You are right in that you need to look up the technical/declared meaning as far as classifications go.
Intermittent streams are seasonal from groundwater, whereas ephemeral occur only within 48 hours after rainy weather to carry stormwater. There's definitely no (current) spring feeding at the point where the stream's headwaters are supposed to be, in the backyard of a lot across the street, but years of flowing water have definitely made the river bed seem intermittent.

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Best to either go straight to the NC Department of Environmental Quality or to a private firm like soil and environmental consultants and pose the question to them. My gut says if it is already classified as intermittent and in the Jordan Buffer, then chances are extraordinarily slim, but you never know til you ask.
Have any good reference to a local firm? I've spent about half an hour on the phone with Chapel Hill Stormwater and haven't gotten a straight answer. As I'm not the current property owner, I'm not entitled to request a stream determination, either.
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