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Old 10-06-2017, 03:43 AM
 
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Ya'll got keep in mind that the main reason the entire Raleigh-Durham area even has economic proprietary and money to pay for infrastructure expansion and upkeep is because of growth. More people = more taxpayers. If people stopped moving here many years ago, people that live here would not have the job and economic oppourtunities that this area has today.
Not totally true.

The bribed employers and coddled developers do not pay their way up front.

If there is a slowdown and many of these transplants go back where they came from, taxpayers will be stuck paying off the borrowed money raised to bring these burdens on all taxpayers here.

Was speaking with a construction carpenter and he agreed that the garbage apartments and homes built now will have about 5 years of good life before falling apart. They will then no longer attrct customers for resale, and slums here we come.

This growth is a setup for disaster. Detroit will welcome us to their club.
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Old 10-06-2017, 05:08 AM
 
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This growth is a setup for disaster. Detroit will welcome us to their club.
No.
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Old 10-06-2017, 06:50 AM
 
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Let's not forget that maintaining the area quality of life will only become more attractive to people wanting to move here in the future. So CapitalBlvd, technically we are "doomed" by our own success. The only way to not slide backwards is to keep moving forward. And stiffling development, since so much potential profit is involved, would cause developers to sue the towns themselves. All that can be done is to guide growth to provide as pleasant an outcome as possible.
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Old 10-06-2017, 06:53 AM
 
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Let's not forget that maintaining the area quality of life will only become more attractive to people wanting to move here in the future. So CapitalBlvd, technically we are "doomed" by our own success. The only way to not slide backwards is to keep moving forward. And stiffling development, since so much potential profit is involved, would cause developers to sue the towns themselves. All that can be done is to guide growth to provide as pleasant an outcome as possible.
Get good lawyers to beat down the developers.
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Old 10-06-2017, 07:00 AM
 
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Get good lawyers to beat down the developers.
Unfortunately, you the tax payer would need to pay for that. Tough call.
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Old 10-06-2017, 07:30 AM
 
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Unfortunately, you the tax payer would need to pay for that. Tough call.
Cheaper than the burdens these new residents impose on all residents.

Developers are trash that need to be controlled. Look at North Hills for an example.
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Old 10-06-2017, 07:32 AM
 
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Thanks for posting this! So what could be a traffic decongestant? Me thinks for one slow down the sprawl, zone things where residential and commercial areas can coexist, complete with sidewalks, a few bus routes, bike lanes, and limit the amount of lanes on the road, all these steps would help. Unfortunately, how do you convince developers to reinvest into developed areas within Raleigh and completely change everything. Only thing we can do at this point is limit sprawl, Portland oregon for instance imposed a boundary on its cities growth.

If the Raleigh/Durham area were to impose some type of growth boundary and completely stop the sprawl, the COL in the area would rise dramatically. The demand for the area would not decrease but the supply most certainly would. One of the main draws to the area (or used to be) was the decreased COL compared to the larger cities up north, out west and on the coast. I know the COL in Raleigh has risen dramatically in the last few years but it is still cheaper compared to those other places (NY, Boston, LA, etc..) For some reason I think area residents would rather have growth that is affordable as opposed to the insane housing costs that come with trying to limit the growth of a booming area.
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Old 10-06-2017, 08:26 AM
 
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Cheaper than the burdens these new residents impose on all residents.

Developers are trash that need to be controlled. Look at North Hills for an example.
Arent you from New york or something? Developers certainly need more regulation.
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Old 10-06-2017, 08:45 AM
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CapitalBlvd has definitely returned, with a backlog of anti-everything rage.
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Old 10-06-2017, 11:26 AM
 
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Arent you from New york or something? Developers certainly need more regulation.
They really do.

Manhattan has decimated the middle income population and the jerks are now moving into areas where you need body armor and a weapon to survive.

Do we want that here? Yupsters are encroaching on many good lower income residents in this area too.

IMHO a good plumber or first responder worth much more than most of the overpaid hipsters.
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