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Old 10-31-2019, 08:49 AM
 
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"Is the Triangle in danger of Atlantafication?"

Lordy, Lordy, I hope not. I would like to keep our hockey team.

Well played sir
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:41 AM
 
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Perhaps so, but claiming there is no rural/urban divide in NC is absurd.
This is true, and really it has only been within the last decade or so that there has been a pronounced, vocal antipathy towards urban areas coming from Raleigh. In Georgia, rural state legislators are practically expected to slam Atlanta to gin up votes and that's been the case since forever seemingly.
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Old 10-31-2019, 10:01 AM
 
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This is true, and really it has only been within the last decade or so that there has been a pronounced, vocal antipathy towards urban areas coming from Raleigh. In Georgia, rural state legislators are practically expected to slam Atlanta to gin up votes and that's been the case since forever seemingly.
you dont think urban areas dont hate on the rural?
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Old 10-31-2019, 06:22 PM
 
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Because of its polycentric nature, the Triangle is going more the DFW/Tampa Bay route ...
Sorry, what do you mean by this? Asking as considering both locations due to work and have yet to be to either.
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Old 10-31-2019, 07:08 PM
 
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you dont think urban areas dont hate on the rural?
They do, but Southern states have had rural interests dominate for so long so the dynamic is a bit different.

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Sorry, what do you mean by this? Asking as considering both locations due to work and have yet to be to either.
It simply means that the Triangle revolves around multiple distinct urban areas while a metro area like Atlanta (and Charlotte) only revolve around one core primary urban center. That tends to affect development patterns and such
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Old 10-31-2019, 07:27 PM
 
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[quote=Edward Teach;56529229][quote=architect77;56514080]Atlanta's problems come from a sleepy state government and DOT that didn't study, build-out or improve its basic layout of roads for 25 years as they watched the population triple.

Also Georgia is hamstrung by legislators across a rural state not wanting to support the metro area. Such absence of loyalty between rural and urban areas doesn't exist in NC, a fiercely supportive populace of everything within the borders.
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I disagree strongly. The situation you ascribe to Georgia is exactly the situation as it exists in NC now.
As a native of Franklin County, NC. I have never heard anyone from any county across the state express disdain for Raleigh or Charlotte.

From my perspective, I see rural NC generally supportive of the closest city nearby.

They may not want to live in Raleigh or even feel comfortable there, but they recognize it's role as a job center and their only connection to "civilization".

Maybe the transplants are wary of the rural parts, but NC natives in the cities like Raleigh always seem to accept that it's all one state, and predominantly rural as it has always been. It's the sophistication and growth of the cities that's the exception.

And even if you're correct about some discord among NC's counties, it ain't nothing like Georgia.

Outside of Metro Atlanta towns don't want any change, not even for jobs and prosperity, two things that rural NC lusts for unequivocally.

Rural Georgia hates Atlanta because of racism and fear, and even the suburban metro counties want to feed off Atlanta's success without paying a dime in taxes to give back or support.

Atlanta continues to fracture into smaller municipalities rather than reap the efficiencies of consolidation.

Stockbridge even tried to carve out the affluent areas and break apart from poor part so they wouldn't have to support it.

Georgia and NC dovetail each other perfectly.

Everything that's great in each state is awful in the other.

Georgia does big city with people having a big-city mentality very well, people have the same attitude and expectations as in NY and LA.

NC even in the cities emanates small-town mentality, people getting bent out of shape by other people's lives and differences. So it doesn't evoke big-city mentality anywhere close to Atlanta.

NC has a very advanced, set of systems in place for small towns to prosper and resources and state agencies that are a thousand times more developed than Georgia.

Georgia's state agencies, its DOT and metro Atlanta's cooperation and level of servicesare primitive compared to other states and not in the same galaxy as NC which is a top-tier (best) state in every regard.

Corruption is the norm for all public officials in Georgia and there aren't checks and balances to control it.

NC's state employees, except for a dozen or so famous crooks, are generally trustworthy, and the state's government is a prototype for some Eastern Europe countries to emulate.

Georgia has no people doing oversight of the big picture of how the state is functioning while NC is on the forefront always looking to improve and prosper.

NC has built thousands of miles of new, interstate-quality highways in the past 25 years, while Georgia has built none. Atlanta's layout of interstates hasn't changed since the 1960s.

All of the Southeast cross-state traffic has to come through Atlanta and mix with local traffic. NC would have built 3 loops around Atlanta by now, protecting its logistics and distribution economy, Georgia has done nothing for what truck drivers now say is their 2nd most hated region after NJ.

The DOT in Georgia hasn't ever designated future corridors for future highways and so Atlantans think Expanding highway network and building new freeways means plowing through established neighborhoods slicing them in half like Freedom Parkway was going to do to connect to I-85.

People in NC beg for new highway to accommodate new industry while Atlantans think their inadequate system of roads is normal and all that's possible so they are against any additional ones.

The two states couldn't be more different which gives the Southeast the full gamut of every size town and environment possible.

I live in Atlanta but pretend it's a foreign country like South Africa where what I get from it is worth all the severe tradeoffs but I'm not proud of it as a state like I am about NC.

Atlanta is basically NC's 3 main metros clustered together.

And Atlanta is expected to have 8 million people within 20 years. It is still growing wildly despite all its mobility problems.

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Old 11-01-2019, 05:17 AM
 
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As a native of Franklin County, NC. I have never heard anyone from any county across the state express disdain for Raleigh or Charlotte.
As a native of Guilford County, NC I have frequently heard many people from across the state express disdain for Raleigh and Charlotte.

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From my perspective, I see rural NC generally supportive of the closest city nearby.

They may not want to live in Raleigh or even feel comfortable there, but they recognize it's role as a job center and their only connection to "civilization".
My perspective, and experience, is quite different and apparently, a lot of people agree with me:

"Last year, N.C. State’s Institute for Emerging Issues sent a survey to more than 31,000 people across the state asking what they consider the biggest problem facing North Carolina. The number one answer: “The rural-urban divide.”"
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Old 11-01-2019, 08:02 AM
 
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As a native of Guilford County, NC I have frequently heard many people from across the state express disdain for Raleigh and Charlotte.



My perspective, and experience, is quite different and apparently, a lot of people agree with me:

"Last year, N.C. State’s Institute for Emerging Issues sent a survey to more than 31,000 people across the state asking what they consider the biggest problem facing North Carolina. The number one answer: “The rural-urban divide.”"
charlotte hates on raleigh all the time and guilford is not a rural county
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Old 11-01-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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charlotte hates on raleigh all the time...
And visa versa, but that is not at all relevant to anything I've posted.

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...and guilford is not a rural county
I didn't say it was, and again, is completely irrelevant.
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Old 11-01-2019, 11:04 AM
 
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City folks are like strange family members.

It's good to see them every now and then, but their mannerisms get old real quick.
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