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Old 10-12-2019, 01:09 PM
 
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Specifically:
1. Uncohesive/poorly planned growth; unchecked sprawl
2. Excessive commutes due to massive traffic
3. Failure of local governments to cooperate to address regional infrastructure planning (roads, schools, mass transit, etc.)
4. Economic stratification due to unaffordability
5. Increasing crime

If so, what are steps that could be taken prevent overall degradation in quality of life, but also allow for inevitable growth?

Are government officials here proactive and have a long-term vision for sustainability?

I am speaking as a newcomer who considered Atlanta for relocation but was turned off for the reasons above.

Raleigh hit the sweet spot and is clearly a great place to live. However, from reading the forums there is a great of deal of fear that it will go down the path of Atlanta (and other cities similarly affected).
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Old 10-12-2019, 01:22 PM
 
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  • No MARTA rail here yet, they just keep adding lanes to highways.
  • RDU Airport hates mass transit, since they have expanded money-making parking decks.
  • Wegmans is here!
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Old 10-12-2019, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Originally Posted by dariusxiv View Post
Specifically:
1. Uncohesive/poorly planned growth; unchecked sprawl
2. Excessive commutes due to massive traffic
3. Failure of local governments to cooperate to address regional infrastructure planning (roads, schools, mass transit, etc.)
4. Economic stratification due to unaffordability
5. Increasing crime

If so, what are steps that could be taken prevent overall degradation in quality of life, but also allow for inevitable growth?

Are government officials here proactive and have a long-term vision for sustainability?

I am speaking as a newcomer who considered Atlanta for relocation but was turned off for the reasons above.

Raleigh hit the sweet spot and is clearly a great place to live. However, from reading the forums there is a great of deal of fear that it will go down the path of Atlanta (and other cities similarly affected).
If you had been here 15, 20, 25, 30, 40 years ago, you could have had the same conversations.

No one gets to stand still in time.
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Old 10-12-2019, 01:45 PM
 
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Yeah dude we are screwed there is no hope for a real solution but taxes will go up a lot
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Old 10-12-2019, 01:58 PM
 
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well, Raleigh would need to undergo Charlottefication first.
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Old 10-12-2019, 02:21 PM
 
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  • No MARTA rail here yet, they just keep adding lanes to highways.
  • RDU Airport hates mass transit, since they have expanded money-making parking decks.
  • Wegmans is here!

Is the opposition to rail transit more for cost considerations and/or cultural (people here prefer to drive to work)?
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Old 10-12-2019, 02:24 PM
 
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If you had been here 15, 20, 25, 30, 40 years ago, you could have had the same conversations.

No one gets to stand still in time.
Understand, I was just trying to get a feel for the direction of the area with respect to vision/attitude/desires of the citizens.
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Is the opposition to rail transit more for cost considerations and/or cultural (people here prefer to drive to work)?
It's still relatively easy to drive everywhere so people don't see the long term need for any transit (especially if it would come at the cost of increased taxes).
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Research Triangle Area, NC
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We are definitely not cool enough to be ATL.
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Old 10-12-2019, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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Originally Posted by dariusxiv View Post
Specifically:
1. Uncohesive/poorly planned growth; unchecked sprawl
2. Excessive commutes due to massive traffic
3. Failure of local governments to cooperate to address regional infrastructure planning (roads, schools, mass transit, etc.)
4. Economic stratification due to unaffordability
5. Increasing crime

If so, what are steps that could be taken prevent overall degradation in quality of life, but also allow for inevitable growth?

Are government officials here proactive and have a long-term vision for sustainability?

I am speaking as a newcomer who considered Atlanta for relocation but was turned off for the reasons above.

Raleigh hit the sweet spot and is clearly a great place to live. However, from reading the forums there is a great of deal of fear that it will go down the path of Atlanta (and other cities similarly affected).
Yes , ironically you question this after moving out to Clayton so you are a contributor to this. People move out , sprawl, mark their territory . Then they complain about others doing the same ... I’ve heard from some civil engineers that an area is sustainable and able to upkeep its infrastructure as long as density is greater than 2500. That is also the lower end .

Anyhow growth to the state of NC is slowing , however to the triangle itself it hasn’t .

Growth ain’t inevitable , the fantasies of endless growth are going to send this planet down.
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