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Old 10-16-2019, 04:44 PM
 
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I see "Cited on Charge of No Operators License" tickets just about daily in the Cary PD daily summary.


Anyone know what the usual fine/punishment is for this?


Yes, they all have similar surnames.


Posted this after seeing two red-light runners on a brief grocery trip today in same town.


reports:
http://policereports.townofcary.org/dailybulletin.aspx

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Old 10-16-2019, 04:54 PM
 
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you got a link to these?

I assume they're issued a citation which requires them to show up to court. Most folks would get a valid license and bring that with them, an get the ticket dismissed with some amount of court costs possible.

Of course, if they DON'T show up for the ticket, I'm guessing they're found guilty, and in the case of an ongoing issue like this where you're supposed to have a license (ie, not a caught going 44 in a 35) perhaps a contempt order is given. Whether they pay attention to that or not is also in question.

What do you mean by "similar surname"? Jones, Johnson, Johnston?
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Old 10-16-2019, 05:09 PM
 
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you got a link to these?

I assume they're issued a citation which requires them to show up to court. Most folks would get a valid license and bring that with them, an get the ticket dismissed with some amount of court costs possible.

?
Considering you have to have a permit for year before you get a license, that is quite a tall order. i guess if you're over 18 you can challenge the test right off the bat, but I'm guessing someone who couldn't be bothered before is not gonna sit around the DMV and hope for the best on the test because they got a ticket.
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Old 10-16-2019, 05:34 PM
 
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I see "Cited on Charge of No Operators License" tickets just about daily in the Cary PD daily summary.


Anyone know what the usual fine/punishment is for this?


Yes, they all have similar surnames.
The fine for "no operators license" is $50, plus $190 court costs. $240 total. If you show up in court with a valid license, the charge is almost always dropped.

With the reference to the surname, I assume you're talking about illegal/undocumented immigrants. Yes, without a social security number, you can't get a license in North Carolina. Of course, they're going to drive anyway (not having your own transportation seriously limits your work prospects around here). If they pay the $240, the case is done, and they'll probably keep driving. It's part of the cost of living if you don't have a license here.
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Old 10-16-2019, 08:24 PM
 
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you got a link to these?

I assume they're issued a citation which requires them to show up to court. Most folks would get a valid license and bring that with them, an get the ticket dismissed with some amount of court costs possible.

Of course, if they DON'T show up for the ticket, I'm guessing they're found guilty, and in the case of an ongoing issue like this where you're supposed to have a license (ie, not a caught going 44 in a 35) perhaps a contempt order is given. Whether they pay attention to that or not is also in question.

What do you mean by "similar surname"? Jones, Johnson, Johnston?
He means all hispanic names. Interestingly enough, I went through several days of citations and there were actually very few no operator's license by these criminals vs speeding, running red lights and other charges.
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Old 10-17-2019, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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I went through it as well and found no such citations, which is why I asked Deputy Dawg for a link.
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Old 10-17-2019, 01:49 PM
 
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I went through it as well and found no such citations, which is why I asked Deputy Dawg for a link.
You have to sort by type (citation/summons) and date. Then at the bottom of the page, you may have to select how many to show if there are more than 10. There are a few no operators licenses peppered in between all the other citations/summons.
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Old 10-22-2019, 11:14 AM
 
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10/21, two more, no license, Chatham & Maynard!
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Old 10-22-2019, 12:30 PM
 
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My son was rear-ended in Cary a few weeks ago and his car totaled by a driver who didn't have a license...hers had been suspended for some reason. Cary PD gave her a citation, but then let her drive away from the scene. I was shocked that they just let her go, so called and talked to a supervisor who said there was nothing they could do about her getting in the vehicle driving away. I don't think it's too much for the officer to do what is necessary to make sure this unlicensed driver doesn't cause any more accidents, but apparently it's not of concern to Cary PD.
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Old 10-22-2019, 12:37 PM
 
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If you didn't renew your license plate and were stopped and given a citation, would you expect the officer to let you drive away (still with an expired plate), or have the car towed?

The vast majority of license suspensions are administrative, such as for not paying a fine. Having a suspended license is not necessarily an indicator the person is a dangerous driver. As long as the vehicle had insurance, once the person is given a citation, what else should Cary PD have done? Given her another citation? It's not worth the trouble of making someone park their car, and then being partially responsible if something happens to them because they can't get home.
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