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a quote from Dr Cohen
“We are on a dangerous course,” Cohen said at a news conference Thursday. “Hospitals are feeling the strain, and this is really worrisome.”
a quote from Dr Cohen
“We are on a dangerous course,” Cohen said at a news conference Thursday. “Hospitals are feeling the strain, and this is really worrisome.”
At my hospital, COVID-19 admissions have increased from 68 from 2 weeks ago, to 121 today. As much as you want to mess with the statistics, it's real. The admissions are real and the people not recovering is real.
At my hospital, COVID-19 admissions have increased from 68 from 2 weeks ago, to 121 today. As much as you want to mess with the statistics, it's real. The admissions are real and the people not recovering is real.
Is your hospital part of CAPRAC? According to DHHS CAPRAC currently has 191 hospitalized, so 121 at one hospital seems high. Not doubting what you say, just curious what group.
Do they generally try and transport covid patients to certain hospitals?
a quote from Dr Cohen
“We are on a dangerous course,” Cohen said at a news conference Thursday. “Hospitals are feeling the strain, and this is really worrisome.”
At my hospital, COVID-19 admissions have increased from 68 from 2 weeks ago, to 121 today. As much as you want to mess with the statistics, it's real. The admissions are real and the people not recovering is real.
not recovering = longer stay to recover, or dying.
I mean, look at my post yesterday. How in holy hell is our % of cases > 65 still so high??
That's not how it works, although I agree that the 53 year old is at higher risk and should be higher on the priority list. I'd be beyond shocked to see schools opening full in-person particularly at the middle and high school level until a vaccine is approved for children and they have time to administer it widely.
Also of critical importance is making sure the 53 year old and other adults feel comfortable getting the vaccine. Given the amount of hysteria and misinformation out there, it's something that will have to be actively worked on. If not, we run the risk of either not reaching herd immunity or having a two-tiered society. It's also important to note that not everyone is a good candidate for vaccines and herd immunity is especially critical for them.
Sorry if I'm boring anyone, but someone up thread asked about it, and I thought the poll was interesting. It wasn't my intent to post on and on about it, but if I'm quoted and someone challenges what I've said I'm going to reply.
For the sake of discussion, since we are able to civilly do so...
I'd say it IS about that 53 year old teacher, and that by vaccinating them, we are "covered" at this time.
1. I don't recall the teachers' orgs (here or elsewhere) saying they were concerned about the kids - but about themselves and their vulnerabilities/co-morbidities.
2. We have thought, observed, and confirmed that it's rare for children to have Covid issues.
So, if we DO vaccinate the at-risk population, and WAIT to vaccinate the "safe" population, then we have accomplished our intermediate goal.
Of course, we want as many people vaccinated as possible as soon as we can.
But I sure don't want to hear from any anti-vax, "continue the severe restrictions" people. Any significant number of teachers that want vax exemptions but to remain fully-employed? Hell to the No.
I will wear a mask indoors in public until we reach a predetermined precise % of infected/vaccinated. Capacity restrictions, curfews, etc etc etc - that aren't based on science and reality - see above. I'm personally about as done with it as I can be, like this:
If hospitals are in such urgent states, why are elective surgeries still occurring? Elective surgeries were the first to go back in March.
From last week:
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Across the Duke Health system, Galbraith said, 111 people are being treated for COVID-19. The number isn't high enough to force any Duke-affiliated hospital to start canceling elective surgeries to free up beds, she said.
For the sake of discussion, since we are able to civilly do so...
I'd say it IS about that 53 year old teacher, and that by vaccinating them, we are "covered" at this time.
1. I don't recall the teachers' orgs (here or elsewhere) saying they were concerned about the kids - but about themselves and their vulnerabilities/co-morbidities.
2. We have thought, observed, and confirmed that it's rare for children to have Covid issues.
So, if we DO vaccinate the at-risk population, and WAIT to vaccinate the "safe" population, then we have accomplished our intermediate goal.
Of course, we want as many people vaccinated as possible as soon as we can.
But I sure don't want to hear from any anti-vax, "continue the severe restrictions" people. Any significant number of teachers that want vax exemptions but to remain fully-employed? Hell to the No.
I will wear a mask indoors in public until we reach a predetermined precise % of infected/vaccinated. Capacity restrictions, curfews, etc etc etc - that aren't based on science and reality - see above. I'm personally about as done with it as I can be, like this:
I totally feel ya! And I agree that in the immediate future high risk groups should be the focus and having vaccine available for them should make a big difference. But as far as getting back to normal, I think it's going to take more than that and addressing vaccine hesitancy and anti-vax campaigns is going to be important. That is all. To be clear, I am not saying that schools need to be or should be closed until all children can be vaccinated just that I don't think things will start getting back to normal until vaccines are widely available and have a high uptake. Honestly, I'm not quite sure what I've said that's so controversial, but I've probably said all I can say on this. I will bow out now.
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And I agree that in the immediate future high risk groups should be the focus and having vaccine available for them should make a big difference. But as far as getting back to normal, I think it's going to take more than that and addressing vaccine hesitancy and anti-vax campaigns is going to be important. That is all. To be clear, I am not saying that schools need to be or should be closed until all children can be vaccinated just that I don't think things will start getting back to normal until vaccines are widely available and have a high uptake. Honestly, I'm not quite sure what I've said that's so controversial, but I've probably said all I can say on this. I will bow out now.
