Are the people in Chapel Hill snobs? (Carrboro: camp, live)

[sugarandcream]

Originally Posted by Monkey Toes

I don't judge someone buy how much money I think they have. I judge them by how they treat other people. I too believed that people are all pretty much the same not matter where you go. Reality slapped me in the face when I moved to California. I can assure you that being able to afford a home on the same street as a dot com millionaire, in no way indicates that we have the same values.

Money isn't the issue. There are plenty of pretentious people that are not wealthy and vice a versa. I never asked if Chapel Hill was a wealthy community. I asked if it was pretentious.

Monkey Toes (cute handle there, by the way), Chapel Hill is not as pretentious as California. I know California well and completely understand where you are coming from. It is almost as though the people in Cali want to see who is cooler by who is more aloof. I know that game. I have lived in all of the major cities in California and LA is the worst about that. It is so much more about being "cool" and having an attitude with those people, than anything else. If you are nice person, you don't fit in there. I am from NC and it didn't take my long to see the big picture in that type of environment. Whatever to that. You won't experience much of that in Chapel Hill. They have too much substance to be snobby. Snobby and "too cool" people are usually deeply insecure and afraid to be themselves. Not in Chapel Hill.

[sugarandcream]

Originally Posted by iabhornc

Wow! The last several responses I got from disgruntled North Carolinians made no sense at all (except for one a little). The only thing they did is just help prove the point of the message I responded about these people who have different views (other than your own). I just gave my opinion and I expected that much. I have seen almost the whole U.S. and no other state compares. How can you call a place with the biggest inconsiderate jerks ''great.'' How anybody could call the schools down here ''great''? Now, if they said compared to somewhere else then yes. These NCians say their place is great based on what these stupid publications are saying. It is only a rating. Once second you are #1 and then another second you drop a few points or more. It does not mean anything. The only thing that makes a place great (to a person) is actually being there and speaking from experience. I don't know where a lot of these people are coming from to why they say every other state in the U.S. is **** compared to NC. Just take a look at the previous responses. Talk about intelligence?

1 a (1): the ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations : reason ; also : the skilled use of reason (2): the ability to apply knowledge to manipulate one's environment or to think abstractly as measured by objective criteria (as tests) bChristian Science : the basic eternal quality of divine Mind c: mental acuteness : shrewdness2 a: an intelligent entity ; especially : angel b: intelligent minds or mind <cosmic intelligence>3: the act of understanding : comprehension


Well, you do have a point on #2 but I have found many down here have a hard time understanding things and not getting their facts straight. Yeah, right! Someone not getting their facts straight is NOT ''intelligence'' that is ignorance. If they are so ''educated'' they should prove it. I almost never hear nobody talk anything productive here. The talk is mainly: obnoxious family matter, politics, personal issues, sports. Those things are okay providing you share them, but when you have to hear the same things everyday for up to 2 decades it can get on your nerves. You'd be ready to tell someone to shut the **** up. That's what I could easily say to all the hypocrites who didn't really make a argument but just tried to rub it in my face. If it's so ''great'' then you name me EVERYTHING that makes this sorry town ''great''. I also have people telling me that if I hate it so much I should leave. To that I respond ''gladly''. That's why I leave this cesspool every chance I get. The only reason it's ''everywhere'' to North Carolinians is b/c they are stupid and insist in acting the way they do anywhere. They're stupid that's what. Let's define stupid.

1 a: slow of mind : obtuse b: given to unintelligent decisions or acts : acting in an unintelligent or careless manner c: lacking intelligence or reason : brutish2: dulled in feeling or sensation : torpid <still stupid from the sedative>3: marked by or resulting from unreasoned thinking or acting : senseless <a stupid decision>4 a: lacking interest or point <a stupid event> b: vexatious, exasperating

Wow! Just to say that is an understatement. Many of you are saying you're nice based on what many Northerners are telling you. If they are the ones saying that you know you have to panic. However, I would definitely side with anybody who says that *compared to* NYC this is better. You know that's right; compared to. It's good to get away from some place that's making you unhappy but there are times in which one has to cope with it. What do you think it is I am trying to do? At one point in time (and this was in Chapel Hill now), you could say ''hi'' to almost anybody in sight. Now, you can barely do that anymore. Not to mention the fools in this town can't ****ing drive. Running red lights and stop signs (b/c you are too ****ing impatient to stop for one second all b/c you are slow)? Trying to run people over with their cars (which is criminal) b/c you *think* you are above the law and entitled to special privileges on a car you really can't afford? Learn to get up and do something w/o your weapon of mass destruction (vehicle) and also learn to signal. I have driven a good bit of the U.S. Like they all say, yes, east coasters in general drive more aggressively. Being in a hurry is one thing but trying to kill others when you are a grown adult 40,50,60+ You should know better. If you were in a hurry then put some speed into what you do and learn to merge into oncoming traffic the right way. If you ask me, they need to revoke the licenses of just about everybody in sight down here. The place is also: dull, boring, and depressing. It's a ''great'' place alright (providing you are like the people down here). The only city down here I barely like is Greensboro. I would enjoy it better if ppl. would just mind their own business and stay off my back. I don't give a **** about how these southerners do things. They WILL learn to mind their own business or I will lose my cool. Heck! Even other southerners don't like North Carolina (that one over-rated-most-moved-to cesspool in the country and possibly world) Maybe I need to define diversity.

1 : the condition of being diverse : variety; especially : the inclusion of diverse people (as people of different races or cultures) in a group or organization <programs intended to promote diversity in schools>
2 : an instance of being diverse <a diversity of opinion>

...and there barely is any of that down here. When I went to California, I was completely blown away. That place has a HELL of a lot more diversity than these wannabe, southern, ****S who constantly rant about ''integration'' this and that and yet they are very intolerant towards those who are not their equal. If one doesn't fit in down here, they are lucky. I used to feel down about it all the time. I wish I would've known this growing up. The only person here who has really made some sense here is ''brightmidnight.'' They named one of the MANY reasons I don't go to Carrboro (more like garbageboro). However, if you think NC is great and you are dissing on one city all b/c I said Chapel Hell sucks that doesn't make sense either. How anybody could think that's in any town is beyond me. Maybe I need to define the word snob.

1British : cobbler2: one who blatantly imitates, fawningly admires, or vulgarly seeks association with those regarded as social superiors3 a: one who tends to rebuff, avoid, or ignore those regarded as inferior b: one who has an offensive air of superiority in matters of knowledge or taste


I guess that would make me a snob, eh? Well, good! The only reason I try to avoid the people in this town is b/c they get on my nerves nothing more. You also have people saying you should stay away from these people. What do you think I do? However, if snob means all that then we as humans in general are snobs. So we are all snobs. So, what? Better a snob than to be around weird people who make you feel insecure just by being in your presence and/or jerks who come up to you asking you questions about your marital status and sexual orientation as if it's the only important thing in existance. Yeah! But then those people have a certain way of acting that is kinda ''gayish'' too. That's unless they are insecure with themselves. I don't understand why. They must've been verbally abused on the matter or something. I could go on and on...

I am just now coming into this post but am laughing my head off at your post. This is truly funny. If you don't mine my asking, where are you from?! It is not that I agree or disagree with you about these opinions of yours, but I think it is hilarious that you would write on and on and on.................. about this topic when you could have clearly made your point with one or two sentences. I am not trying to offend you but the only thing I grasped in reading your post is your anger towards NC. I too have lived all over the nation (and in every California city) but I had a different perception of California from you (I grew up in Raleigh). Out of curiosity, where are you from? Where did you grow up? What is your favorite place in the US?

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Originally Posted by iabhornc

-Believe me. Chapel Hill stinks. Basically, everyone on this board has said the problem with Chapel Hill (a snooty, elitist, town out of hell). If you are looking to get away from California, this is not the place for you for many snobby Californians move here and bring that attitude with them. I have been to California and I liked that state better. There really is no culture down here, and I expect a LOT better for a college town. Cary, on the other hand, I would recommend. However, that is just me. It's a lot quieter than loudmouth Chapel Hell with these arrogant college jerks. You would think that especially with this being a college town and all. I am not originally from NC either. Your words ''a community that is educated, liberal, tolerant and safe'' is exactly what I would expect. You would also think that because the fact Chapel Hill is a college town you'd be bound to find an intellectual or someone you can have an intelligent conversation with but no. About the only kind of people you have here are: excessive sports fans, public drunks of all sorts (and the bus rides in this town are free so they ride like crazy), and the biggest obnoxious clowns you will find this side of the Mississippi. I was quite taken by the laid back attitude of most of the West Coast states, but these east coasters are a bunch of ppl. who pride themselves in being loud and obnoxious in general. Not to mention that Chapel Hill is an expensive place to live like the rest of the state. Just to jot down everything wrong with this town would take longer than a college essay. Durham is another town a lot like this one to avoid like the plague but I won't get into that. Don't believe any douchbag who tells you Chapel Hell is great (it is far from). I could go on and on but I will stop here. I would take this before South Carolina though :-)

This is interesting. You have admitted that you like Cary because it is quiet but you don't seem like the quiet type. I love your honesty on this board and the fact that you "tell it the way you see it" but that is so inconsistent with someone who likes a "quiet" town. What is it that you want? I have lived all over the US and I have close friends from Raleigh who have also lived all over the world, and I know a lot about life in various areas. What are you seeking? What is it that makes you happy?

[JQ Public]

I think there are a lot of snobby people inside-the-beltline in Raleigh. Like this guy...

ITB Insider

[sugarandcream]

Originally Posted by JQ Public

I think there are a lot of snobby people inside-the-beltline in Raleigh. Like this guy...

ITB Insider

Who in the world is ITB insider? I am from Raleigh (ITB), and I have never heard of him? Who is he? Or who does he pretend to be? Tell me his name and I can give you a complete run down. I know everyone in Raleigh (especially the old timers).

[DanielleNC]

LOL, that can't be real.

[JQ Public]

Isn't it annoying though. In a weird way I know there are people in that area that think like him though. Kind of makes me sick. I have no idea who he is b/c William Needham Finley is probably just a play on different old money names from Raleigh. like...Needham Broughton high and Carter Finley Stadium.

[iabhornc]

Originally Posted by southern country redneck

The only snob issues I see are with the people coming into the area from the outside. They bring their attitude and their negative thoughts about people from the south. Chapel hill is just one example of it. Elitists that think they know better than everyone else and look down upon the natives. A paid for degree does not make one better or smarter than those of us that know what made the south great. These elitists think they are open minded, but they are far from it. Just disagree with them or show how much you love your southern heritage and you will see their fangs come out. The issue is not natives being nasty to Yankees. The issue is the Yankee attitude, which has infiltrated Chapel Hill and other places. They are the snobs, not the natives.

-Thank you. That is what I was trying to say.

[Digital_Duck]

... there used to be a restaurant in Shallotte where the local coffee clutch was sitting around yakking it up with a local police officer ....

one old gal asked him where he was from ... he said "From here - family been in NC since the civil war"

She asked his name ... he told her ... and she said she did not know that name ... at which point he explained that he was from this other town ...

to which she replied ... "OH ... you aren't from around here!"

not a snob ... huh??

If you are from here and think you are nicer and/or better than a Yankee you are a SNOB TOO!

[ahnraleigh]

Originally Posted by southern country redneck

The issue is not natives being nasty to Yankees. The issue is the Yankee attitude

I think it's silly when people define 'the problem' with their infinite wisdom. Everything is relative and a view of one area being snobbish is so multifaceted that you can't put a definition on it. I do however believe that using derogatory names which are leftover from the Civil War is definitely not helping any of the 'issues' in Chapel Hill or North Carolina .