Are the people in Chapel Hill snobs? (Raleigh, Clinton: transplants, movies)

[Digital_Duck]

the funny part of that CIVIL WAR stuff is the last place to join the Union after the Civil War joined in 1947 ... it was Townline New york

[CHTransplant]

Originally Posted by Digital_Duck

the funny part of that CIVIL WAR stuff is the last place to join the Union after the Civil War joined in 1947 ... it was Townline New york

Interesting story! Had to check it out on Wikipedia:

In 1861, in the small hamlet of Town Line in upstate New York, 125 voters met and voted 85 to 40 to secede from the Union and join the Confederate States of America. The reasons are unclear, but an article in The Buffalo News from 1945 cites discontent with President Lincoln, treatment of Confederate soldiers at a POW camp in Elmira, the interest of self rule or perhaps an incident by some runaway slaves at a local underground railroad stop. It was also reported that Town Line sent five men through the Union lines to fight for the Confederate States under General Robert E. Lee.

During the American Civil War, as casualties on both side increased and the nature of the Civil War changed, the secession was slowly forgotten by members of the community but never revoked.

During World War II, it was discovered that Town Line had not rejoined the Union, and on 26 January 1946, Town Line voted to officially join the Union. Even today, the local volunteer fire company has the words "Last of the Rebels" on their shoulder patch.

[lonecracker]

Carrboro is the place for you. Caarrboro is very laid back, funky, down to earth, small town feeling, art community, great music venues, and can go to Chapel Hill for stuff that Carrboro doesn't have
such as a mall. Carrboro folks are the best. AND we have Weaver Street Market!

[Digital_Duck]

Originally Posted by CHTransplant

Interesting story! Had to check it out on Wikipedia:

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my mothers childhood home was on the same spur as Townline is on ...
makes me feel OLD!! they joined the Union 11 years before I was born ...

[frogandtoad]

Originally Posted by southern country redneck

The only snob issues I see are with the people coming into the area from the outside. They bring their attitude and their negative thoughts about people from the south. Chapel hill is just one example of it. Elitists that think they know better than everyone else and look down upon the natives. A paid for degree does not make one better or smarter than those of us that know what made the south great. These elitists think they are open minded, but they are far from it. Just disagree with them or show how much you love your southern heritage and you will see their fangs come out. The issue is not natives being nasty to Yankees. The issue is the Yankee attitude, which has infiltrated Chapel Hill and other places. They are the snobs, not the natives.

So all those being educated at UNC who ARE from the South turn out not to be elitist and all those being educated at UNC who are NOT from the South turn out to be really elitist. Gosh, that makes total sense.

[Francois]

Originally Posted by ahnraleigh

I do however believe that using derogatory names which are leftover from the Civil War is definitely not helping any of the 'issues' in Chapel Hill or North Carolina .

Are you suggesting that people up north do not have preconceived derogatory notions of what "Southerners" are like?

"Yankee" is not usually a derogatory term, FYI; it CAN be, depending on context and tone, but is often used by Southerners and Northerners alike, in areas such as the Triangle where the two groups are intermixed, as simply a quick way of saying "someone who moved here from the North."

[southern country redneck]

Originally Posted by frogandtoad

So all those being educated at UNC who ARE from the South turn out not to be elitist and all those being educated at UNC who are NOT from the South turn out to be really elitist. Gosh, that makes total sense.

There is a difference between native educated and those from the outside that come in for their education. There is a mindset with many from the outside that those of us in the south are backasswords and they know better on everything. They look down upon us and think we need to change our ways. The native educated population may have some things rub off on them, but they know their roots and what made them what they are. There is a big difference. I am not saying all people who come here are that way, but that is where the majority of the snobness comes from. To think that many young people coming here from the outside to get their education, along with their rich families that may have moved here, don't think they are better than the average southern redneck is foolish. Now there is the old money crowd you find in some sections of this area that are snobs, but that is the minority of the snobness here. And the term 'Yankee' is not used in a derogatory way, just like when I refer to myself and fellow southerners as rednecks.

[no kudzu]

When my daughter in law and my step son moved South from Wisconsin, she told me she had only Deliverance (movie) as her frame of reference for people in the South and that is what she expected. That hurt alot and I'm sure she is not alone. Stereotypes in the media have done more to perpetuate any negative rivalries between the North and the South. And it only seems to get worse as far as the media is concerned. I cringe when I see Southerners depicted as dumbass idiots when in fact there are dumbass idiots all over the country.
BTW, said step son just lost his job and was wanting to return to Wisconsin but daughter in law said absolutely she would never leave the South and now considers it her home. She is very embarrassed when I remind her of her original mindset and she admits how narrow minded she was.

[Digital_Duck]

she was unschooled??

never heard of Scarlet Ohara?

[CHTransplant]

Originally Posted by Digital_Duck

she was unschooled?? never heard of Scarlet Ohara?

Gone with the Wind is not the be all/end all of Southern literature. I count myself among those who consider themselves educated but have never read the book or watched the movie. My Southern-born wife claims it as a cultural icon, however, and is aghast that someone could have escaped it. I joke with her about it having been required reading/watching for kids in the south. She thinks that's not too far from the truth, though.