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Old 06-17-2008, 02:24 PM
 
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Maybe 2006. My fault.
No worries. I'm not going to fight about this topic and I certainly don't want to get involved in a debate about statistical methods conerning means, medians, and normalizations.

 
Old 06-17-2008, 02:27 PM
 
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No worries. I'm not going to fight about this topic and I certainly don't want to get involved in a debate about statistical methods conerning means, medians, and normalizations.
Both cities are wonderful. People should enjoy them both.

Now Cary on the other hand, when compared to Amherst NY, is a crime infested war zone.
 
Old 06-17-2008, 02:28 PM
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No worries. I'm not going to fight about this topic and I certainly don't want to get involved in a debate about statistical methods conerning means, medians, and normalizations.
I hope I don't come across as debating. Like I said, I am a bit of a math nerd and I didn't realize that data sets like this could be normalized, as I had always defined it. I am just trying to brush up on my skills.
 
Old 06-17-2008, 02:30 PM
 
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Somehow I doubt the OP is benefiting from this discussion.
 
Old 06-17-2008, 02:33 PM
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Somehow I doubt the OP is benefiting from this discussion.
Actually, it seems pretty well on the original topic to me.
 
Old 06-17-2008, 02:40 PM
 
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When I say normalized, I simply mean that it has been averaged to a "per 100,000" residents rate as to be useful when comparing different size cities. This is the same thing the FBI uses to compare cities. I see people mentioning raw numbers of crimes/murders. Those don't really tell you anything unless the cities have the same population. A city doesn't automatically become more dangerous because its population increases (and murders/crime along with the increase).
 
Old 06-17-2008, 02:47 PM
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When I say normalized, I simply mean that it has been averaged to a "per 100,000" residents rate as to be useful when comparing different size cities. This is the same thing the FBI uses to compare cities. I see people mentioning raw numbers of crimes/murders. Those don't really tell you anything unless the cities have the same population. A city doesn't automatically become more dangerous because its population increases (and murders/crime along with the increase).
Ah. I don't think that is really normalization. Oh well.

(Not to say that what you are doing isn't valid, just not the term you are using, at least as far as I understand it. I would be happy for anyone with more up to date stats training to correct me.)
 
Old 06-17-2008, 02:58 PM
 
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No worries. I'm not going to fight about this topic and I certainly don't want to get involved in a debate about statistical methods conerning means, medians, and normalizations.
Me either, I have enough of that at work! I could always consult my handy "Cartoon Guide to Statistics" which is about 2 feet away from me right now
 
Old 06-17-2008, 08:43 PM
 
Location: SW Durham, NC
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It seems this topic comes up again and again and always with the same result: Durham is labeled a terrible crime infested city and noone wants to move here. Fine by me because meanwhile Wake county draws the majority of new residents who fear Durham. While Wake county continues to burst at the seams. we here in Durham know all the wonderful things that we have here to offer and surprise, we're are enjoying a calmer, more diverse way of life. I like that outcome, how 'bout you, scorp?!!
 
Old 06-17-2008, 08:50 PM
 
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It seems this topic comes up again and again and always with the same result: Durham is labeled a terrible crime infested city and noone wants to move here. Fine by me because meanwhile Wake county draws the majority of new residents who fear Durham. While Wake county continues to burst at the seams. we here in Durham know all the wonderful things that we have here to offer and surprise, we're are enjoying a calmer, more diverse way of life. I like that outcome, how 'bout you, scorp?!!
That's another way to look at it.

Raleigh had three suspected murders over the weekend. No one cares, because Raleigh is considered La La Land...
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