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Old 06-17-2008, 02:59 PM
 
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Normalized for the difference in populations, Durham has more crime. That is what I posted.

I have not bashed Durham over social issues. I have hung out in Durham. I have not ignored the positives. I've not said Durham is a bad place.

 
Old 06-17-2008, 03:02 PM
 
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What if Raleigh was compared to another city of similar size, that had a lower crime rate, would that make Raleigh a crime haven? I think not.

The same goes for Durham. It like comparing a Mercedes and a BMW. Just because one can perform better than the other doesn't mean it's trash.
 
Old 06-17-2008, 03:04 PM
 
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Normalized for the difference in populations, Durham has more crime. That is what I posted.

I have not bashed Durham over social issues. I have hung out in Durham. I have not ignored the positives. I've not said Durham is a bad place.
Why don't you state the positives? I'm Raleighite and I refuse to let someone bash our sister city.
 
Old 06-17-2008, 03:05 PM
 
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I never said Durham was a crime haven. I said it wasn't as safe as Raleigh. Just like Raleigh isn't as safe as Cary. I specifically said that I'm not making a judgment whether Durham is "safe" or not, just discussing the relative safety.
 
Old 06-17-2008, 03:06 PM
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Normalized for the difference in populations, Durham has more crime. That is what I posted.

I have not bashed Durham over social issues. I have hung out in Durham. I have not ignored the positives. I've not said Durham is a bad place.
Out of curiosity, what data are you normalizing, here? I thought the discussion was on the current crime rates. I am not sure how that can really be normalized. Or, are you creating a data set based on the crime rate for numerous years? Or, monthly data, maybe?

Maybe my stats skills are a little rusty, but I didn't realize you could normalize a data set with only a couple numbers.

(I am not asking to pick on you or anything, but because I really want to know. I was a math major and find data analysis pretty interesting, but it has been years since I looked back over my notes from my stats classes)
 
Old 06-17-2008, 03:11 PM
 
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I never said Durham was a crime haven. I said it wasn't as safe as Raleigh. Just like Raleigh isn't as safe as Cary. I specifically said that I'm not making a judgment whether Durham is "safe" or not, just discussing the relative safety.
However your comments can lead outsiders to believe just that.

The Triangle is a low crime, easy living utopia when compared with a lot of other large size metros. Many cities can only dream of having a low rate of crime such as Durham or Raleigh.
 
Old 06-17-2008, 03:12 PM
 
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The per capita numbers normalize the data relative to the population differences (Raleigh is larger than Durham). It is a good idea to look at a period of years and at overall trends. A spike in a category one year isn't usually cause for concern if the overall trend is not up.
 
Old 06-17-2008, 03:13 PM
 
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No Raleigh has more crime numerically, if you want to get specific. Durham had 12 murders in 2007.
First off, I think both Durham and Raleigh are safe places to live.


That being said, I think if people are going to start throwing numbers around that at the very least they should be accurate.

The Durham Chief of Police contradicts your statement above. Accroding to him there were 25 murders in Durham in 2007. Where exactly are your numbers coming from???

Source: http://www.durhampolice.com/news/pdf/080422_1.pdf

I'm not bashing Durham. I like Durham. I just don't like it when people make incorrect statements based on false data.
 
Old 06-17-2008, 03:16 PM
 
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First off, I think both Durham and Raleigh are safe places to live.


That being said, I think if people are going to start throwing numbers around that at the very least they should be accurate.

The Durham Chief of Police contradicts your statement above. Accroding to him there were 25 murders in Durham in 2007. Where exactly are your numbers coming from???

Source: http://www.durhampolice.com/news/pdf/080422_1.pdf

I'm not bashing Durham. I like Durham. I just don't like it when people make incorrect statements based on false data.
Maybe 2006. My fault.
 
Old 06-17-2008, 03:18 PM
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The per capita numbers normalize the data relative to the population differences (Raleigh is larger than Durham). It is a good idea to look at a period of years and at overall trends. A spike in a category one year isn't usually cause for concern if the overall trend is not up.
Which normalization form are you using for this analysis?
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