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Old 07-20-2008, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Lowest Taxed/Highest Q.O.L. CARY, NC
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You still do. Nothing is stopping you from living where you want to live. It's just up to you the buyer to do your own research.

It could be a lot easier if Realtors were allowed to hand you a stat sheet of the neighborhood.

I mean come on, City Data and many other sources have all the stats for EVERYTHING for each town, so why can't it be broken down to a neighborhood? It is okay to do it nationwide, statewide & townwide, but not for a neighborhood? Things were just taken a little too far.
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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It could be a lot easier if Realtors were allowed to hand you a stat sheet of the neighborhood.

I mean come on, City Data and many other sources have all the stats for EVERYTHING for each town, so why can't it be broken down to a neighborhood? It is okay to do it nationwide, statewide & townwide, but not for a neighborhood? Things were just taken a little too far.
Perhaps if for many decades minorities hadn't been deliberately excluded from certain neighborhoods such laws wouldn't be necessary. But they were, and so they are. It is unfortunate, though, I agree.
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Lowest Taxed/Highest Q.O.L. CARY, NC
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Perhaps if for many decades minorities hadn't been deliberately excluded from certain neighborhoods such laws wouldn't be necessary. But they were, and so they are.

Giving a buyer a stat sheet that shows how many kinds and what the diversity numbers are does not stop someone else from moving to a neighborhood. I might stop myself from buying there if I find that there are too many kids or the neighborhood is 100% white, but it does not stop someone else from buying there. Again, the rules have gone to far. Preventing knowledge is not the thing that should be done.

And I will ask again, why is it okay for the government to REQUIRE you to complete a census, so they can publish numbers on the state level and town level, but our Realtors here cannot give the numbers on a neighborhood level. It's okay to be somewhat bad, but not all the way bad?
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:33 PM
 
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Giving a buyer a stat sheet that shows how many kinds and what the diversity numbers are does not stop someone else from moving to a neighborhood. I might stop myself from buying there if I find that there are too many kids or the neighborhood is 100% white, but it does not stop someone else from buying there. Again, the rules have gone to far. Preventing knowledge is not the thing that should be done.

And I will ask again, why is it okay for the government to REQUIRE you to complete a census, so they can publish numbers on the state level and town level, but our Realtors here cannot give the numbers on a neighborhood level. It's okay to be somewhat bad, but not all the way bad?
So your question really isn't about the Triangle area at all is it?

You just want a referendum on the validity of the Fair Housing Act.

I suggest you post your question on the city data real estate forum. I'm sure you will get some well informed responses to your loaded questions there.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/real-estate/

Good Luck!
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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Thanks for the responses so far. I totally understand that a Realtor does not want to get anywhere near breaking a Federal law.

Unfortunately, I think laws can go too far at times. As a buyer that DOES NOT want to live in a neighborhood absolutely loaded with kids, I wish I had an easy way to find out how many are there, besides sitting outside when the school bus rolls by. I don't understand how a person choosing a neighborhood that has a lack of children, so they can live more quietly, could possibly be considered discrimination against the kids. I remember a time in America when we actually had the right to live where we wanted to for whatever reason we wanted to.

Oops, starting climbing onto the soap box.
If you are concerned about the number of children in a neighborhood, may I recommend driving through the area on a couple Saturdays and perhaps in the evenings when children are often out playing or coming home from school on the bus. If the neighborhood has a pool, drive by and take a look at how many kids are there on a hot, humid Saturday.
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Old 07-20-2008, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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If you are concerned about the number of children in a neighborhood, may I recommend driving through the area on a couple Saturdays and perhaps in the evenings when children are often out playing or coming home from school on the bus. If the neighborhood has a pool, drive by and take a look at how many kids are there on a hot, humid Saturday.
And I'm not even allowed to say THAT!

I'm not even sure there is the information that In And Out is asking about, by neighborhood. Like I said, it is available by zip code and by various websites put out by the Census Burea, but by neighborhood? I'd suggest you'd stop and ask the neighbors!

I do try to keep my clients aware of where the landfill is going, where the new section of 540 is going, etc., etc. However, in an area with this growth, I can't know EVERYTHING!

Buyers should also do their research.

Vicki

Vicki
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Old 07-20-2008, 04:23 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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We are allowed to say "Fair Housing prohibits me from discussing race, creed, color, religion, sex, handicapping conditions, national origin and familial status.

That is THE LAW. You don't mess around with the Federal Government!

Vicki
So, based on the letter of the law, you could tell a buyer that a house next door is gay owned but you couldn't tell them that the potential neighbor is a White Reformed Jewish Lesbian from Bulgaria with a son in a wheelchair? Am I correct?....just curious.
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Old 07-20-2008, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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So, based on the letter of the law, you could tell a buyer that a house next door is gay owned but you couldn't tell them that the potential neighbor is a White Reformed Jewish Lesbian from Bulgaria with a son in a wheelchair? Am I correct?....just curious.

I think you are somewhat mis informed. How would I KNOW if the "house next door is gay owned"?

Do you honestly believe that each and every Realtor knows the make up of each and every neighborhood???

Vicki
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Old 07-20-2008, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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And I'm not even allowed to say THAT!

Vicki
Oh, I know. I suggested it since your lips are sealed by law and InandOut is pretty persistent.....
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Old 07-20-2008, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Lowest Taxed/Highest Q.O.L. CARY, NC
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Thank you for the input Vicki. I think the law really puts you and the other Realtors in a pickle. I don't think it is fair to you either. Luckily I did do what people here have suggested. I walked around SCV a lot, to make sure I was not going to be walking into a boat load of kids and to make sure there was some diversity here. I was happy to see that my wishes were going to be granted. I plan on being here a long time, so I won't have to deal with this issue for a while.
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