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Old 08-17-2008, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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Since there's no risk of a loss of "profit" as so much is grant funded, there was an atmosphere that was apathetic to deadlines. I'm all for kicking back
Boy, I miss those days. Kidding. Kind of.

I remember several instances when an employee was picked out before the job was posted. The job posting was required, a formality. They'd have to interview 5 people, but it was known who they were going to hire. There was a slim possibility that an interviewee was going to really wow the manager, but very slim.
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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Boy, I miss those days. Kidding. Kind of.

I remember several instances when an employee was picked out before the job was posted. The job posting was required, a formality. They'd have to interview 5 people, but it was known who they were going to hire. There was a slim possibility that an interviewee was going to really wow the manager, but very slim.
This is exactly what I have heard about the hiring process at UNC. Discouraging to say the least! I have also been told that they hire the initial person they want for the job as a temporary employee, while they go through the posting/interview process. Once they are done with the required process, they move that temp employee over to permanent.
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:11 PM
 
Location: SW Durham, NC
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Boy, I miss those days. Kidding. Kind of.

I remember several instances when an employee was picked out before the job was posted. The job posting was required, a formality. They'd have to interview 5 people, but it was known who they were going to hire. There was a slim possibility that an interviewee was going to really wow the manager, but very slim.
I've experienced the scenerio you described at other companies and it's frustrating for one who is applying. In my case with UNC the job had already been posted when I found the manager and called him to initially bypass the HR department...
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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This is exactly what I have heard about the hiring process at UNC. Discouraging to say the least! I have also been told that they hire the initial person they want for the job as a temporary employee, while they go through the posting/interview process. Once they are done with the required process, they move that temp employee over to permanent.
It helps to be that temp employee, though. That's why I think Tar Heel Temps is a good path.
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:22 AM
 
Location: SE Durham
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If there's not supposed to be any nepotism going on, then why is it so blatantly obvious on every single application without exception, the question is asked if you know anyone that works there or if any family by blood or marriage work there? Even though my dh was highly qualified for the positions he applied for (10+ years experience), I always wondered if the checkmark 'no' for this question put him at a disadvantage.
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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If there's not supposed to be any nepotism going on, then why is it so blatantly obvious on every single application without exception, the question is asked if you know anyone that works there or if any family by blood or marriage work there? Even though my dh was highly qualified for the positions he applied for (10+ years experience), I always wondered if the checkmark 'no' for this question put him at a disadvantage.
They ask that so they can track the nepotism, and make sure family members don't report to one another. It's actually a protection against nepotism.
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:33 AM
 
Location: SE Durham
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Thanks for educating me on that one welovedurham. You are such an asset here at CD.
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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Thanks for educating me on that one welovedurham. You are such an asset here at CD.
Aww, tanks!
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Old 10-06-2008, 02:15 PM
 
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Keep trying, but don't put all your money on black in regards to applying for a job at UNC. The good-ole boy system is still alive and well here at Carolina, and despite what some may say, it has always been a foundation for employment here.

I've been with the university for quite sometime now and I can speak from experience that yes, if you weren't born and bred a tarheel or if you're not in some sort of way related or know anyone in the university, it is very difficult to find employment here. I've had several co-workers who recieved their undergraduate degrees here admit that even though they knew they weren't qualified for the job they were bound to land it because of back door friendships and alliances that made previous before the interview.

And the thing about positions getting at least 100 applicants interested in the same position is very very true. I called in and asked several representatives in human resources who have also suggested using the same words in the job announcement in my resumes when applying for the job.

Carolina is a great place to work....depending on the department you are in. You have to realize people care more about their legacy and that in turn can make things very very difficult for you if your not the type to jump on board. You'll spend a majority of your time playing nice and putting on a front just so people don't get the idea you're not a team player. All this is usually the norm at any place of employment, but is amplified to the tenth power up here on the Hill.

My suggestion is to keep applying, update your resume contantly to fit around the job your interested in, contact HR leave messages if you cannot reach anyone directly, go online to the campus directory and familiarize yourself with departments and buildings. But more importantly, contact department heads directly and let them know you've applied for jobs in their area. This was the only way I got where I am because I knew first-hand how systematic and petty the hiring process is here.

Good Luck
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Old 10-06-2008, 02:36 PM
 
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Keep trying, but don't put all your money on black in regards to applying for a job at UNC. The good-ole boy system is still alive and well here at Carolina, and despite what some may say, it has always been a foundation for employment here.

I've been with the university for quite sometime now and I can speak from experience that yes, if you weren't born and bred a tarheel or if you're not in some sort of way related or know anyone in the university, it is very difficult to find employment here. I've had several co-workers who recieved their undergraduate degrees here admit that even though they knew they weren't qualified for the job they were bound to land it because of back door friendships and alliances that made previous before the interview.

And the thing about positions getting at least 100 applicants interested in the same position is very very true. I called in and asked several representatives in human resources who have also suggested using the same words in the job announcement in my resumes when applying for the job.

Carolina is a great place to work....depending on the department you are in. You have to realize people care more about their legacy and that in turn can make things very very difficult for you if your not the type to jump on board. You'll spend a majority of your time playing nice and putting on a front just so people don't get the idea you're not a team player. All this is usually the norm at any place of employment, but is amplified to the tenth power up here on the Hill.

My suggestion is to keep applying, update your resume contantly to fit around the job your interested in, contact HR leave messages if you cannot reach anyone directly, go online to the campus directory and familiarize yourself with departments and buildings. But more importantly, contact department heads directly and let them know you've applied for jobs in their area. This was the only way I got where I am because I knew first-hand how systematic and petty the hiring process is here.

Good Luck
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