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10-19-2008, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by butterbeer
JillboBill,
Thanks for the tall tale, but if I were you I would spend less energy on weaving yarns and would instead focus selling that house you should never have bought and on moving if I were you since you clearly have some issues to work out. Best of luck to you. 
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You are absolutely excused. How dare you! Why would I make up a story? No, really, shame on you - I AM NOT A LIAR.
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10-19-2008, 07:47 PM
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Furthermore, I'm not sharing this COMPLETELY TRUE AND DISGUSTING story so you guys can think (or believe that I think) the problem is only isolated here. I am completely aware that this kind of thing happens everywhere to varying degrees. The topic of this post is about Raleigh, though, and living here and having experienced what I have while doing as much, I'm sharing.
I'm telling you so that other people can know that these kinds of people exist HERE -- they're grocery baggers, AAA drivers, senators, retired widows, church officials, your neighbors and even snotty, belligerent forum-goers (read: butterbeer). They're everywhere.
As for the story being a lie -- I'll say again that it IS NOT and I really resent some (again) belligerent forum-goer trying to tell me I need something else to do with my time. Maybe you need to get away from the computer more and experience these horrible people for yourself. YOU ARE EXCUSED.
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10-20-2008, 09:42 AM
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Spent about 24 years in NE Ohio, four years in Southern Cali, and about 9 months in Cary now.
In the Triangle, you will find that within the wealthier neighborhoods your nicer restaurants, shops, and grocery stores will be more abundant. More people will be seen taking walks outside, jogging, and smiling. Most everything looks new.
The poorer neighborhoods are the exact opposite.
There's no real mystery or utopia here. The Triangle is segregated in much the same way most anyplace else is in this country: by income bracket.
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10-20-2008, 10:48 AM
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Aren't most places in the world segregated by income bracket? I mean maybe it shouldn't be that way, but that's the way it is.
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10-20-2008, 02:23 PM
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socioeconomic divide is based upon a history of racism
yes, the segregation is income-based, but that income inequality correlates with a history of racial inequality that still effects society today
there are definitely instances in which the words "classism" and "racism" should be distinguished from each other, but i believe it is important to understand first how closely related it is, before making that distinction
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10-20-2008, 04:27 PM
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I am Caucasian and from the midwest (Michigan). From what I've noticed in the south and the midwest that there seems to be segregation mostly by choice in the less educated areas (for example certain parts of Durham, Detroit). I can't drive through certain parts of Durham or Detroit without people staring me down or saying something ignorant because I am Caucasian. There is segregation by choice on all sides, which is why I find it offensive that when people hear or see the word racist that it only applies to Caucasian people, when that is far from reality.
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10-20-2008, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Nikola Tesla
I am Caucasian and from the midwest (Michigan). From what I've noticed in the south and the midwest that there seems to be segregation mostly by choice in the less educated areas (for example certain parts of Durham, Detroit). I can't drive through certain parts of Durham or Detroit without people staring me down or saying something ignorant because I am Caucasian. There is segregation by choice on all sides, which is why I find it offensive that when people hear or see the word racist that it only applies to Caucasian people, when that is far from reality.
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True, racism cuts both ways. Try East Millbrook Middle School for a prime example of AA student discrimination against other ethnic groups.
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10-21-2008, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by angiejim
socioeconomic divide is based upon a history of racism
yes, the segregation is income-based, but that income inequality correlates with a history of racial inequality that still effects society today
there are definitely instances in which the words "classism" and "racism" should be distinguished from each other, but i believe it is important to understand first how closely related it is, before making that distinction
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Uh, what? 
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10-22-2008, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by angiejim
socioeconomic divide is based upon a history of racism
yes, the segregation is income-based, but that income inequality correlates with a history of racial inequality that still effects society today
there are definitely instances in which the words "classism" and "racism" should be distinguished from each other, but i believe it is important to understand first how closely related it is, before making that distinction
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Your totally correct. Although the correlation is based on historic fact, I think it would be impossible to elaborate without this turning into a huge debate.
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10-23-2008, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by shoes4birds
intense - I'm sorry I don't have school information for you, but I live in Michigan and the segregation (and overall lack of culture) is part of the reason why we're moving. We were thrilled when we walked around Raleigh and saw people of every color. The Triangle had a very different feel to it, and our visit was very refreshing. While I'm sure there's still segregation, to us it felt significantly different than the Midwest.
Good luck w/your decision to move!
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You must live in the hills then, I've lived all over Michigan below Mount Pleasant & seen none of what you're talking about.
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