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Old 11-30-2008, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Exit MA Now View Post
This is a rude New Yorker attitude problem. If it was WalMart, then it would be happening everywhere. People need to stop blaming big business for everything.
Now that wasn't a positive statement.
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:42 PM
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The blame IMO is the whole darn "Day after Thanksgiving" mentality where merchants deliberately FEED the whole chaos and "better get here early! Limited supply!" mindset that causes there to be such a frenzy anyway. I guess the fatcats of those stores see those frenzied crowds and think "Ca-ching!" but it is the absolute WORST of human behavior and the fact that marketers deliberately incite it is despicable. I have NEVER needed something so badly for a Christmas gift that I would go out into that mess...but for some people, it's an outright sport.
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:46 PM
Location: Raleigh, NC
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if anyone's ever been in a mob/large crowd before, you do realize when they charge that you have no control in the front. you are being pushed from behind by people who are also being pushed, and no one sees the guy on the ground except the people being forced to move over him. i blame the lack of security, organization, and planning on Walmart's part, as will a jury i'm sure.
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Old 12-06-2008, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by samdan View Post
If you ever lived on L.I. you can see how this happened.I'm not shocked at all,just another day in Valley Stream.
LONG ISLAND/NASSAU COUNTY/SUFFOLK COUNTIES have one of the highest per capita income, and a multitude of highly-efficient intellectuals in the USA. It does, however, like any other parts of the USA, a small percentage of ethnic groups that maybe a little more exhuberant than others.

Walmart failed to provide the proper security for that event, knowing the fact that that part of NY State is a high-density area. If you have a multitude of people grouped together, and the ones in the back begin to push forward, with no security in place, there is bound to be chaos.

Walmart should at least, have called the Police to keep order and barricades should have been in place.

Let's not forget that NYC has a multitude of parades and events each year, starting with the New Year's Event, where over a million people are present, sometimes more, and it goes on smoothly, with no problems.

The saddest part of it, is that someone had to die for the incompetence of Walmart.

So, please, let's put the blame where it should be.
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Old 12-06-2008, 04:36 PM
Location: Cary, NC
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The tide turns the other way. 3 Walmart employees involved in death of suspected shoplifter.

Al Norman: More Mayhem & Death At Wal-Mart
You Meet The Nicest People At Wal-Mart
By Al Norman
Florida resident Patrick Donovan, 53, died over $393 in Wal-Mart merchandise, lying face down in the giant retailer's parking lot last week. The media reported the exact amount of Wal-Mart goods Donovan had allegedly shop-lifted---so we can quantify the value of this man's life.
In a reversal of the death of a 34 year old Wal-Mart worker last week under the feet of aggressive Wal-Mart shoppers, Donovan's death in Florida---three days after the Long Island incident---was at the hands of three Wal-Mart workers, who wrestled the alleged shoplifter to the ground, where the man died.
The Wal-Mart workers and one bystander held Donovan down, while one leaned on his back and another held down his arms and head. The police report says they told Donovan to stop fighting, and asked witnesses to call 911. By the time Donovan had stopped struggling, he had died.
"There will be no charges pressed," a spokeswoman for the city of North Myrtle Beach told the Sun News. Authorities said results from an autopsy in the case could take 'a few months.' In the meantime, officials simply concluded, "There is no criminal act." In the words of the County Coroner's office, "As far as I am concerned there is no case here."
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:56 PM
Location: Raleigh, NC
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^ NOne of which has anything to do with the thread name about Long Island, nor the Triangle, which I thought this board was devoted to.
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