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Old 04-25-2007, 06:50 AM
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And punishing the people is going to make the dogs less aggressive how? Even after the attack that I witnessed on my property, the owner insisted that his was a "good family dog". It was not until the Dog Warden said to him, "Either you get arrested or we quarantine the dog, you choose." that the owner did anything. Even after $600 in fines, they still blamed the neighbors and not the dog.

And again, the numbers seem to back up the cases. I agree owners should be held responsible as well.
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The weighted average method is fine but until we all actually know the number of pit bulls in one area, it is all just speculation. Just from typical observation, is every 3rd dog you see a pit bull? No, not likely. So until that time the number of 1 out of every 3 dog bites holds as a good relevant figure. And the contention that people will move on to the next breed? Where is the proof of that? This is based on attacks, not people.
There are lots of studies out there. From what I can find, the dogs most likely to bite are German Shepherds and Chows. Other breeds likely to bite are the Bull Terrier, Cocker Spaniel, Collie, Doberman Pinsher, Great Dane, Pit Bull, Rottweiler, and Siberian Husky. Read into this whatever you choose - I personally don't get much from these types of broad statistics. The only point I would take away is there are some breeds in here that many people unfamiliar with dogs probably wouldn't associate with biting, such as the Collie or Cocker Spaniel.
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Old 04-25-2007, 09:56 AM
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Just from typical observation, is every 3rd dog you see a pit bull? No, not likely.
Actually, take a look on pet finder or in any dog pound. A pit bull (or mutt derivative) is extremely common these days. The dog is also extremely in the projects or depressed regions of every city. Part of the problem for the increase in aggressiveness is the way many of the handlers intentionally treat their dogs. They antagonize it and encourage it to act aggressive towards other people. Its about an image of toughness for most, even going so far as using a heavy gauge chain for collar and leash (when was the last time you saw a collie in a rap video or cd cover?). When a large portion of these dogs are being treated in this abusive aggressive manner then its going to lead to more attacks from them. Its similar to the plight of people in the projects that grow up in broken homes and in a negative environment that have a higher likelihood of being involved in crime, gangs, and/or drugs. For example, blacks have a higher murder rate and a higher incarceration rate for violent crimes NOT because they are genetically "aggressive" but because of environmental factors, social influences, and because of the failures in urban communities to ensure a healthy upbringing.

As I said before, pit bull attacks result in about 3 deaths in a year while deer kill 220 and horses kill 150 a year. A horse's size and their power can be dangerous in certain situations (just like a pit bull), but they aren't inherently dangerous or aggressive.
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And punishing the people is going to make the dogs less aggressive how? Even after the attack that I witnessed on my property, the owner insisted that his was a "good family dog". It was not until the Dog Warden said to him, "Either you get arrested or we quarantine the dog, you choose." that the owner did anything. Even after $600 in fines, they still blamed the neighbors and not the dog.

And again, the numbers seem to back up the cases. I agree owners should be held responsible as well.
The blame should be on neighbors and NOT the dog. If a pet owner has a dog that bites and they know it or it has bitten and if they loved their pet, the they would go to extra measures to make sure that dog does not get loose or go near anyone to bite. I lived next to a pitbull owner once and she always let her dog loose knowing it bit. It bit the 3rd person and it was put down. The owner should of had that dog taken away. The dog would of been put down if taken away anyways. My point to that is, if she loved her dog she would of kept it in so the dog would of not been put down.
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Old 04-25-2007, 05:36 PM
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Actually, they are just banned in public places in the U.K. Check with Allstate and see if they will insure your home if you have a pit bull.
Hmmm...Allstate won't insure your home if it's based on Cape Cod, Mass...(or at least, Provincetown)....should we ban home ownership on the Cape?!! All those dangerous Nor'easters and such?!!

Honestly, citing insurance company behavior as a model for responsible ANYTHING is just plain whacked, IMHO

Re: Pits, you know, it's really, really difficult for responsible dog-owners like me to be above board...we have a Standard Poodle and a Pit Bull (or as I tell people, a Boston Bull, since, thankfully, she has the Boston Terrier markings in replica). I need to stretch the truth so that I can get home insurance, so that I can take my dog to public places, etc., etc. And all the while, everytime someone asks what sort of dog is that adorable little wiggle-worm, I perpetuate the stereo type--or at least don't counteract it--when I say she's anything but a Pit. BAN THE DEED, NOT THE BREED! And yeah, ban the idiots who make such decisions at insurance companies and public policy, while we're at it!
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See, the thing is-those pitbulls, when they bite, they often cause a lot of damage, which the homeowners insurance has to pay for-lots of $$$-that is why they don't want to insure people who own those dogs. I understand that other dogs bite as well-and cost insurance companies $ too-but from my own personal experience in a career that unfortunately can involve dog bites and attacks...the pitbulls tend to maul and cause much scars and damage, rather than just a 'snappy' bite from some snippy poodle or something (of course, a bite is a bite and should never occur and they all cause pain and marks.)

I don't know if banning pitbulls would help, I really don't. Probably stricter leash laws and more enforcement of current dog laws might help. I think 'one bite' is quite enough.
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I have owned many different breeds in my life, right now my husband and I own 2 American Pit Bull Terriers.. They are by far my the best all around! It breaks my heart when people say they want my dogs (who we consider our children!) taken from our family and KILLED just because of their breed. My dogs love everyone! They are so smart, loyal, tolerant, and funny! I wouldnt trade them for the world! I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT I WISHED SOMEONE WOULD COME TO YOUR HOUSE, TAKE YOUR DOG AND KILL IT! So why in the world would you say that to me?! The people that agree with BSL are obviously uneducated about bully breeds! I feel so sorry for heartless people like that! I have been bit by a chow and bit in the face by a lab and I would NEVER say that all chows and all labs should die because of it!.... If you knew the TRUTH about bully breeds instead of believing all of these crazy myths mabey you would realize that the only thing that killing off whole breeds will do is make the bad owners pick another breed to make bad! Then what are we going to do? Kill off that breed?? Then when the bad owners move on again are we going to kill the next breed?! Yeah! that sounds like the way to go! Lets just keep on putting a wet bandaid on this problem untill there are no dogs left in the world!... Would you have a whole race killed just because of a few bad people?! most abuse is by men... should we kill all of the men too??? Oh wait! I got it! Lets ban cigs and alcohol! and while we are at it lets destroy every car, plane, train, boat... Lets kill all of the sharks, wolves, lions, tigers, bears! Lets live in a freaking bubble and kill off everything that has ever had anything to to with hurting or killing someone!... You want to talk about what breeds should be banned?! Well if you knew the statistics and facts you wouldnt think "pit bulls" should be banned!.... The American Temperament Test Society conducts tests every year on thousands of dogs to determine the soundness of their temperament. The American Pit Bull Terrier and the American Staffordshire Terrier routinely and consistently rank in the average range, and well above many "popular" breeds such as the beagle, collie, doberman pinscher, cocker spaniel and great dane. (Source: American Temperament Test Society) Alfons Estelt of the American Temperament Test Society, Inc., stated the following with respect to pit bulls: "The American Pit Bull Terriers participating in our temperament evaluation have thus far shown a passing rate of 95%. The other 121 breeds of dogs in our tests showed the average passing rate of 77%".... what breeds do we need to ban??? "pit bulls"??? I dont think so! How bout beagles, collies, doberman pinschers, cocker spaniels and great danes? You like those dogs right?!....and If you think only "pit bull" owners need to be concerned about breed specific legislation ("BSL"), the following list should shatter your illusions: American Staffordshire Terrier, American Pit Bull Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Boxer, Saint Bernard, Great Pyrenees, Dogo Argentino, German Shepherd, Akita, Husky, Wolf hybrids, Bull Mastiff, Chow Chow, Dalmation, Doberman Pinscher, Dogue de Bordeaux, Rhodesian, Ridgeback, and Rottweiler... Oh and thats just the tip of the iceburg! There is currently 50+ breeds affected by BSL!... Oh and by the way! for those of you who keep saying pit bull pit bull pit bull... thats NOT A BREED!!!! pit bull is not a breed of dog, its a term typically used to group 3 breeds of dog, the American Pit Bull Terrier (ABPT), American Staffordshire Terrier (AMSTAFF) and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier (STAFFIE)
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If you want some pit bull info here you go!... I found all of this on http://www.stopbsl.com/ and http://www.understand-a-bull.com/ ..... I found soooo much stuff! I am making flyer kind of things and I am going to go around and put them in mail boxes and hand them out to people... I believe everyone has the right to their own opinion but I also believe everyone needs to know the FACTS!... This isnt exactly what I am useing.. I just went through and found everything I wish I could tell people and I am going to go through and shorten it.. but as of right now, this is what I found....
nfo About "Pit Bulls" And BSL.....

To start, pit bull is not a breed of dog, it’s a term typically used to group 3 breeds of dog, the American Pit Bull Terrier (ABPT), American Staffordshire Terrier (AMSTAFF) and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier (STAFFIE).

The Pit Bull is probably the most misunderstood dog in the United States. People see them and cross the street out of fear and try to ban them from their cities. Why? Simply stated, lack of education on the breeds. The public only sees negative stories in the news. Pit Bulls are wonderful dogs in the hands of responsible owners just like any other breed. As with any dog, there will always be irresponsible owners and poorly bred dogs. That does NOT mean that all of these dogs are evil! The majority of domestic violence in the US is caused by men, are all men considered evil and dangerous, No. Then why would all Pit Bulls be dangerous because of a few bad owners?

For hundreds of years Pit Bulls were bred to fight dogs, certain traits were bred into the bloodlines for that purpose, high pain tolerance, high prey drive, etc. However a quality that was never bred into Pit Bulls was human aggression. Human "aggressive" dogs were undesirable as these dogs required extensive handling prior to and during their fights AND most of these dogs were also family pets so no human aggression was ever tolerated. Dogs that exhibited human aggression were typically killed, meaning that only human friendly lines were perpetuated and desired. It has been said that a Pit Bull never met a stranger. They love and adore humans. They want so much to be apart of your family and spend time with you watching tv, walking, driving, etc. I have seen severely abused and neglected Pit Bulls who see you coming and they can't wait to be petted and loved. Even after the abuse, they want nothing more than to be with a family of their own! As with any breed there are exceptions to the normal temperament and behavior. We see this in humans as well, there are good ones and bad ones.

So please, take a moment to learn about Pit Bulls and you will fall in love with the breed.


~Fact Vs. Myth~

-Pit Bulls have locking jaws. NO! The pit bulls jaws are the same as any other breed of dog! Any Veterinarian can verify this is simply a myth. Pit Bulls have been bred to not let go, however, their jaws are not locked.

-Pit Bulls have a 1800 PSI Jaw Pressure. Wrong again. Dr. Brady Barr of National Geographic (Dangerous Encounters: Bite Force, 8pm est 8/18/2005) – Dr. Barr measured bite forces of many different creatures. Domestic dogs were included in the test. Here are the results of all of the animals tested: Humans: 120 pounds of bite pressure Domestic dogs: 320 LBS of pressure on avg. A German Shepard, American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) and Rottweiler were tested using a bite sleeve equipped with a specialized computer instrument. The APBT had the least amount of pressure of the 3 dogs tested. Wild dogs: 310 lbs Lions: 600 lbs White sharks: 600 lbs Hyenas: 1000 lbs Snapping turtles: 1000 lbs Crocodiles: 2500 lbs

-Pit Bulls are born to be mean. Not True! Pit Bulls like all other breeds, are not born inherently mean or bad! They can, like any other breed, become mean through lack of training, abuse, neglect and irresponsible ownership and breeding.

-Will a pit bull that shows aggression towards a dog, go after people next.? No animal aggression and human aggression are 2 completely different things! There are many types of aggression in the canine world and they are all very different.

-Pit Bulls attack more than any other breed. No, the statistical data on dog bites and attacks are inaccurate. Many dog bites are never reported. There is nothing in place to track dog bites in the US accurately. There are 25+ breeds that are commonly wrongly identified as pit bulls, Those of us who have been involved with the breed for years have trouble identifying them 100% of the time, so, we certainly can’t expect inexperienced people to be able to properly ID a dog. That said, it leads us to believe that many of the bites that claim to be from pit bulls are in fact, inflicted by other breeds.


~Questions And Answers~

-Question: Are pit bulls good with children? Answer: Properly raised and socialized dogs are great with children! They are able to stand the rough and tumble play of a toddler. As with other big dogs, pit bulls can accidentally knock kids over during play, etc so they should always be supervised. Dogs of any breed should never be left alone with children.

-Question: Are pit bulls inherently dangerous to people? Answer: No! Pit bulls are no more inherently dangerous to people than other dog breeds. People often assume that pit bulls are human aggressive because they were bred to fight animals. This is simply not true! If that were the case then Irish Wolfhounds, Anatolian Shepard's, Great Pyrenees, etc should be considered dangerous to humans as well.

-Question: Why do we hear so many negative pit bull stories in the Media and are they true? Answer: There are a few things that contribute to the negative stories on the news. As often the case, negative stories always seem to get National coverage, where the positive stories only make the local news. The Media is not always very responsible with their stories! I have seen news reports of a dog attack by another breed and, yet the media had a picture of a pit bull on the TV while reporting this story. I’ve read many stories where the reporter obviously hadn’t done any research, when I asked about their statistics they choose not to reply.

Every 10 years or so a new breed of dog is victimized by irresponsible owners, breeders, bad media coverage, and now it’s the pit bull’s turn. In the 70’s it was the German Shepherd, the 80’s was the Doberman’s turn, the 90’s Rottweilers and pit bulls had all the bad press, and now it’s the pit bull’s time to suffer again. And, unfortunately, in a few years it will be another breed that will be in the spotlight.

Dog bite and attack statistics indicate that dog bites are committed by more than just the so-called "dangerous" breeds. Until 2002, the Texas Department of Health Zoonosis Division put out annual "Severe Animal Attack and Bite Surveillance Summary" reports that summarize the breeds responsible for the most serious attacks. Pit bulls, Rottweilers, German Shepherds, and Chow Chows (in no particular order) were consistently on the list. But most interesting of all are the other breeds found on the list - so-called "family dogs". During the studies provided (1996 - 2002), these other breeds included Labrador Retrivers and mixes, Blue Heelers, and Collies. Additional breeds seen occasionally on the list included Chihuahuas and Dachshunds. Remember, this report deals with severe bites and attacks, so that should put to rest the myth that bites from little dogs are not serious

-Question: Do Pit Bulls make good pets? Answer: Yes, but Pit Bulls are not for everyone, just like any other breed of dog. Research should be done on any breed prior to making a decision. The best place for responsible pit bull information is Pit Bull Rescue Central www.pbrc.net. The American Pit Bull Terrier was the #1 family dog in the US during first part of the 20th century. They are Loyal, loving, devoted, funny, and almost human like in their emotions and expressions!

The American Temperament Testing Society does temperament testing throughout the year at breed clubs and compiles the statistics. Their overall pass rate for breeds is 80%, and in the 2002 statistics, APBTs, AMSTAFFs, and Rottweilers were all in the 82 percentile, meaning 80+% of the dogs tested passed the temperament test. That is a very high percentage, especially when comparing to breeds which are common family dogs, such as, Golden Retrievers and Bichon Frise tested at 77%, Chihuahua at 71%, Greyhound at 81% and Lhasa Apso at 71%. These test results are available at www.atts.org

Pit Bulls bond very fast and very strongly to their humans and need to spend a lot of time with you. If you are not home a lot or plan on keeping the dog in the yard, etc, then a Pit Bull isn’t for you! Pit Bulls are a dominant breed and require a strong pack leader who is always in control. Obedience and socialization is mandatory with this breed and should be with any breed.


~Miscellaneous Information on Bully Breeds~

-The second Petey (Lucenay's Peter) from the Little Rascals was a UKC registered APBT, Lucenay's Peter. In 1936 he was cross registered with the AKC as a AMSTAFF.

-The WWI Poster dog was a pit bull.

-Staffordshire Terrier, Sergeant Stubby was decorated WWII war hero. He sought out wounded soldiers and caught enemy snipers.

-Popcicle, the Number 1 US Customs dog is a rescued pit bull, that was left to die in a freezer.

-During the 40's and 50's the American Pit Bull Terrier was the number 1 family dog.

-Pit Bulls are a bad choice for guard dogs due to their love of humans.

-To see if you know what a REAL Amerian Pit Bull Terrier ("Pit Bull") looks like go to http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Fin...itbull_v3.html and see if you can find the "pit bull"


~BSL - WHAT IS IT?~

Breed-specific legislation (BSL) is designed to place restrictions on ownership of certain breeds of dogs. Typically, the restricted breeds include pit bull-type dogs (usually vaguely defined), followed by Rottweilers. Other breeds may include German Shepherds, Chow Chows, Presa Canarios, Dobermans, Cane Corsos, Huskies, Boxers, and mixes of these.

Breed-specific legislation creates a number of restrictions or regulations on any one breed. Owners of certain breeds of dogs may be required to:
-Keep the dog muzzled in public
-Purchase insurance for the dog
-Keep the dog on its owner's property at all times (no trips to the park, the store, etc.)
-Keep the dog in a specific enclosure at all times.

The most common kind of breed-specific legislation completely bans all dogs of a certain breed. This means that all dogs of the banned breed must be removed from the area or euthanized. In other words... family pets (In most cases they are'nt just family pets, they are FAMILY!) will be taken out of their homes and KILLED just because of their breed. It won't matter if the dog is a police dog, a therapy dog, a search and resuce dog, a show dog, a family dog or a mean dog! If it is one of the breeds affected by BSL it will be taken and it will be KILLED.

~Dogs That Are Currently Affected By BSL~

I have only included 1 or 2 cities/states where the breed is affected by BSL so that the breeds can be verified as targets.

1. American Pit Bull Terrier (Note: Laws dealing with “pit bulls” also state any mix of the 3 breeds AND the MOST important line, anything that has the characteristics or appearance of these breeds. There are 20+ breeds that are commonly mistakenly identified as “pit bull” dogs. ) (Denver, CO)
2. American Staffordshire Terrier (Note: Laws dealing with “pit bulls” also state any mix of the 3 breeds AND the MOST important line, anything that has the characteristics or appearance of these breeds. There are 20+ breeds that are commonly mistakenly identified as “pit bull” dogs. ) (Denver, CO)
3. Staffordshire Bull Terrier (Note: Laws dealing with “pit bulls” also state any mix of the 3 breeds AND the MOST important line, anything that has the characteristics or appearance of these breeds. There are 20+ breeds that are commonly mistakenly identified as “pit bull” dogs. ) (Denver, CO)
4. Rottweiler
5.Doberman Pincher (Fairfield, IA) (Sisston, SD), (Westfield, IL), (Travelers Rest, SC) Shar Pei’s (Smithfield, UT)
6.German Shepard (Fairfield, IA)
7.Belgian Malanois (Fairfield, IA)
8.Siberian Huskies (Fairfield, IA)
9.Alaskan Malamutes (Fairfield, IA)
10.Great Danes (Fairfield, IA)
11.Irish Wolf Hounds (Fairfield, IA)
12.Scottish Deerhounds (Fairfield, IA)
13.Mastiffs (Fairfield, IA)
14.Boerboels (Fairfield, IA)
15.American Bull Dog (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA), (North Little Rock, AR)
16.Akita (Ulyssas, KS)
17.Chow Chow (Travelers Rest, SC), (New Port, RI)
18.English Mastiffs, (Yale, IA)
19.Tosa Inu (Aurora, CO)
20.Presa Canario (Aurora, CO)
21.Dogo Argentino (Aurora, CO)
22.Cane Corso (Aurora, CO)
23.American Bulldog (Aurora, CO / North Little Rock, AR)
24.Bull Terrier (Grandview, MO - Akron, OH)
25.American Bull Dog, (North Little Rock, AR)
26.Presa Canario (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA), (Lanett, AL)
27.Wolf Hybrid (Huntington WV)
28.Canary Dog ( Akron, OH)
29.Perro De Presa (Akron, OH)
30.Old Country Bull Dog (Akron, OH)

NOTE: These are breeds that are typically over 100lbs. If your dog is less than 100lbs than they are safe in Fairfield.

31.Bull Mastiff (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
32.Neopolitian Mastiff (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
33.Tibetan Mastiff (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
34.New Foundland (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
35.Anatolian Shepherd (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
36.Greater Swiss Mountain Dog (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
37.Great Pyrenees (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
38.Komondor (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
39.Kuvaz (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
40.St. Bernard (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
41.Tosa Inu (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
42.Dogo Argentino (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
43.Cane Corso (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
44.Fila Brasileiro (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
45.Spanish Mastiff (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
46.Italian Mastiff (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
47.Dogue De Bordeauxs (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
48.Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
49.Akbash (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)
50.Leonberger (Other dogs in excess of 100 lbs - Fairfield, IA)

When all of these breeds are gone and there is still dog attacks what are we going to do? Target another 50 breeds and kill them? This is not the way to fix the problem. Killing off a whole breed or even killing off 50 whole breeds wont fix anything! Its not the breeds that are bad, its the owners that raise them to be bad. There are 2 things that will happen when all of this is over.... first of all this will break peoples hearts and rip appart families and second the bad owners will just move on to another breed and make them mean! We need to stop the bad owners. Punish the deed not the breed! It is only a matter of time untill this happens here unless we all stand up and do something about it!


~WHAT'S WRONG WITH BSL?~

Breed identification is impossible.

The biggest problem is that breed-specific legislation, true to its name, requires every dog to be classified as a certain breed. This is virtually impossible!

Almost all BSL restricts "pit bulls". What are "pit bulls"? American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, and Staffordshire Bull Terriers are usually thrown into that category. What about American Bulldogs, Bull Terriers, Boxers, or English Bulldogs? To aggravate breed identification conundrums, most legislation adds "and mixes" to the wording. In what I can only assume is an attempt to patch up this mess, the law may helpfully describe the appearance of dogs that fall under the category of "pit bull". Needless to say, a lot of dogs fall under the description of "wide head, broad chest, and short fur". Suddenly you're up to your neck in "pit bulls"!

It is readily acknowledged by anyone familiar with handling a variety of dogs and mix breeds (animal control officers, veterinarians, shelter workers, etc.) that accurate identification of a dog's breed or mix is virtually impossible without registration papers or a pedigree at hand. Considering how rarely an animal control officer (ACO) catches a dog wearing tags, how often do you think an ACO lassos a stray dog that happens to have its pedigree papers? Funny thing, genetics. It causes dogs to come in all shapes and sizes and colors - especially the mixed breeds.

To further the injustice, in many cases the dog's owner is responsible for proving that their dog is not a member of the proscribed breed, a task that is usually as difficult as proving it is a certain breed. This is a clear cut case of "guilty before proven innocent" - a very unAmerican philosophy. Breed misidentification leads to expensive, time-consuming lawsuits against the government, something that costs taxpayers a lot of money. The animal control departments I spoke to recently identified these lawsuits as one of the worst consquenses of BSL - their precious time and money wasted defending laws that almost nobody in the animal control industry likes.


~If Not BSL, Then What?~

-Put a stop to leash law violations...Higher penalties for owners who violate the leash law will dissuade more people from slacking on their duties to contain their dog
-Strengthen and enforce penalties for dangerous owners (and their dangerous dogs)
-Crack down on dog fighting
-Strengthen animal abuse laws
-Prevent criminals from owning dogs...The following people should not be allowed to own dogs: drug dealers, human or animal abusers, and anyone convicted of a violent offense (assault, rape, robbery, etc.)
-Regulate breeders


~What approaches can be made to combat dog attacks without needing additional laws?~

-Fund public spay/neuter initiatives...These programs are important, especially low-cost ones. Unneutered dogs, particularly males, are far more likely to attack a human than either neutered males or spayed females.
-Educate about dog behavior (http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/do...dog_bite_free/)
-Encourage responsible dog ownership
-Provide low-cost obedience training classes and behavior help hotlines for dog owners
*You don't need to enact breed-specific legislation to make your city a safer place to live*

If you want to judge, judge the FACTS!... If you want or need any "pit bull" info I would suggest...
http://www.stopbsl.com/
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/
http://www.blessthebullys.com

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Old 04-30-2007, 10:56 PM
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Illinois created a law recently that felons could not own dogs above a certain weight to use as weapons. Apparently ex-gang members in Chicago (who can't own guns) were buying huge Rottweilers and Dobermans and using them to attack other people.

Perhaps a law like that would be better than banning a whole breed, which almost IMO violates the civil rights of owners who love their well-behaved pets of that breed.
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