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Old 02-05-2009, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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I personally gave my former company a month's notice to find a replacement. However, this was due to our understanding relationship in allowing me to transition out of the role and work remotely. Given that you've worked there for a certain amount of time, you should've been able to understand the company culture well enough to predict their actions after giving a notice to resign. Neither the company nor you owe each other anything--it's more of an etiquette issue. However, this will send a bad message to the employees still working there. Karma will come back around to bite them when people start quitting abruptly without notice. Good luck with your new job.

 
Old 02-05-2009, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Cary
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I can somewhat understand the employer's position on this, but if this is their stance, why should employees bother giving notice at all? I was always under the impression that it was a courtesy to one's employer (and sometimes even policy) to give at least two weeks notice when leaving a job. Theoretically this would allow the employer time to set the process in motion of hiring someone else to fill the position and thus provide continuity.

I guess things have changed. If I knew this was how my employer operated, I would have no qualms of announcing as I left on my last day that I would not be returning, with no prior warning. Surprise!

And people wonder why there is no such thing as job loyalty anymore.
You give notice as a formality, and because it it usually stated as such in the company's policy manual. And the company's reason for escorting you out is just as if you were fired: they don't want you to take their "company secrets" (the ones you've been stashing on the thumb drive for months), they don't want you badmouthing the company, they don't want you talking up your new company (usually the competition), you aren't going to be productive anyways, and they are afraid of the mass exodus effect (aka sinking ship).

No one finds a new girlfriend and then tells the current one "hey, I've found a better opportunity elsewhere, but I'll still date you for 2 weeks." I've tried that in my more youthful, albeit dumber, past. No, you're kicked to the curb toute de suite. Loyalty goes both ways.
 
Old 02-05-2009, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Manassas
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In my fiance's line of work (telecommunications infrastructure installation), employees who give two weeks' notice (or any notice at all) are also asked to leave immediately. I agree that it seems harsh, but the company's stance is that anyone who is quitting to go to a competitor does not need to be a part of current projects. They also feel that the employee will not give 100% because their loyalty has already shifted to the next company. And it decreases the chance that the departing employee will recruit coworkers to go with him or her to the next place.

Again, I don't necessarily agree with this policy, it's just how my fiance's company (and many others in that field) works.
 
Old 02-05-2009, 12:38 PM
 
Location: WA
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Enjoy the 2 week vacation!
 
Old 02-05-2009, 12:43 PM
 
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They are actually being very nice to let you work today and tomorrow.

In the biotech field it is common for you to be escorted out of the building on the spot. You are quitting your job, they owe you nothing. Just because you say you are willing to work another 2 weeks does not constitute a work agreement. Just think of it as them countering your offer.
Umm, if you say so. Giving notice is actually a courtesy from you to your employer, allowing them to get any loose ends on projects you are working on tied up. It's always good to leave on good terms. And my experience in the biotech field is the opposite of what you stated. I offered to stay up to a month after I let my company know I was leaving, and they wanted the entire 4 weeks.
 
Old 02-05-2009, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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In my fiance's line of work (telecommunications infrastructure installation), employees who give two weeks' notice (or any notice at all) are also asked to leave immediately. I agree that it seems harsh, but the company's stance is that anyone who is quitting to go to a competitor does not need to be a part of current projects. They also feel that the employee will not give 100% because their loyalty has already shifted to the next company. And it decreases the chance that the departing employee will recruit coworkers to go with him or her to the next place.

Again, I don't necessarily agree with this policy, it's just how my fiance's company (and many others in that field) works.
All of the company's fears you've mentioned can be alleviated with a "Non-Compete" clause or a "Confidentiality Agreement" that the employee signs upon employment. I've had to sign a few in my day and the ones I've signed even stated I couldn't work for a competitor for two years after leaving the company I was with, nor could I "recruit" my former co-workers. It's very common in public accounting (not my field, but am familiar with), where the auditors are visiting client work sites all the time and understand the client business.

Sena
 
Old 02-05-2009, 01:21 PM
 
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Info from the NC Dept. of Labor - http://www.nclabor.com/wh/faqs.pdf
 
Old 02-05-2009, 01:31 PM
 
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Bottom line: you're screwed in this state.
 
Old 02-05-2009, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I agree that trying to ease their transition by giving them warning is a courtesy (also it's pretty much "the standard" in a general sense for any job) and to punish you specifically FOR that reason is really underhanded. People will learn from this and begin simply saying "I won't be back after today", possilby leaving them in the lurch, in the future. I don't know how a company can operate like that and expect any employee loyalty at all, but then again, right now it's an employer's market, and I guess they think they can grab someone who is desperate...it would still make sense for you to be there to help leave a trail of your work duties, though.

Is there a HR department and have you brought it up with them?

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Old 02-05-2009, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Taylors, SC
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I've given 2 weeks notice before and the employer did nothing but stress me out and treat me cruely by verbal abuse. He had me to the point that I was crying! I so wanted to walk out, but couldn't b/c I was in the process of getting a mortgage. You know it's just common courtesy on both parts, but it's a shame employers don't care.
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