U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > North Carolina > Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, Cary
 [Register]
Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, Cary The Triangle Area
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-09-2009, 09:57 AM
 
5,527 posts, read 8,392,705 times
Reputation: 1859

Advertisements

Manpower: Hiring outlook brighter in Raleigh-Cary than in Durham - Triangle Business Journal:

Not bashing...just relaying!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-09-2009, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
10,234 posts, read 17,399,545 times
Reputation: 10786
Isn't Manpower largely a TEMP service? If their business is going UP, it could well mean that permanent employment opportunities are shrinking.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2009, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Virginia (again)
2,697 posts, read 7,298,647 times
Reputation: 1540
Quote:
Originally Posted by Francois View Post
Isn't Manpower largely a TEMP service? If their business is going UP, it could well mean that permanent employment opportunities are shrinking.
Yes they are, but I do not believe that their survey is about employers hiring temps, it's about whether or not employers will be hiring. Also, I believe the temp market tends to take off prior to an employment recovery although I have no idea whether we're anywhere near that right now.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2009, 11:31 AM
 
6,168 posts, read 13,189,339 times
Reputation: 4421
Look behind the survey results.

Two things:

1. A percentage of Durham employers say they are pessimistic and will be having reductions.

The employers in Durham have many more EMPLOYEES (especially in RTP) than Raleigh does. So the number of actual EMPLOYEES affected by the reductions will be higher in Durham than Raleigh.

2. What difference does it make if a higher percentage of Raleigh employers are more optimistic than Durham? As TRIANGLE employees, we can potentially work in either city. The commute isn't that bad. Most of the time, I have worked in Durham, and I live in Raleigh.

So to me, it's a non-issue. Who cares if Raleigh is more optimistic and will have fewer reductions than Durham? It's nice to hear ANY employer is optimistic, but Raleigh's optimism in relation to Durham -- so what? (And I love Raleigh. )

And in the IT world, much of the work is contract. That's just the way they have done things -- for years. They hire for projects.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2009, 12:38 PM
 
Location: N. Raleigh
69 posts, read 128,664 times
Reputation: 90
Quote:
Originally Posted by lovebrentwood View Post
Look behind the survey results.

Two things:

1. A percentage of Durham employers say they are pessimistic and will be having reductions.

The employers in Durham have many more EMPLOYEES (especially in RTP) than Raleigh does. So the number of actual EMPLOYEES affected by the reductions will be higher in Durham than Raleigh.

2. What difference does it make if a higher percentage of Raleigh employers are more optimistic than Durham? As TRIANGLE employees, we can potentially work in either city. The commute isn't that bad. Most of the time, I have worked in Durham, and I live in Raleigh.

So to me, it's a non-issue. Who cares if Raleigh is more optimistic and will have fewer reductions than Durham? It's nice to hear ANY employer is optimistic, but Raleigh's optimism in relation to Durham -- so what? (And I love Raleigh. )

And in the IT world, much of the work is contract. That's just the way they have done things -- for years. They hire for projects.
RTP is in neither our city of Raleigh or their city of Durham. Durham has more employess than Raleigh? I find that hard to believe. I am with you on what difference does it make on which city has more, but I have read a lot of posts where one side likes to toot their own horn precisely because of the numbers. It makes no difference. Most people commute.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2009, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Virginia (again)
2,697 posts, read 7,298,647 times
Reputation: 1540
Quote:
Originally Posted by 10.7mOTB View Post
RTP is in neither our city of Raleigh or their city of Durham. Durham has more employess than Raleigh? I find that hard to believe. I am with you on what difference does it make on which city has more, but I have read a lot of posts where one side likes to toot their own horn precisely because of the numbers. It makes no difference. Most people commute.
The article is not talking about the city of Raleigh v. the city of Durham. It's talking about MSAs so anything in Durham County (as well as Orange, Chatham and Person counties) are in the Durham MSA. That includes RTP.

Last edited by sls76; 06-09-2009 at 01:14 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2009, 12:57 PM
 
6,168 posts, read 13,189,339 times
Reputation: 4421
Durham has RTP. Raleigh does not have an RTP.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2009, 02:25 PM
 
Location: N. Raleigh
69 posts, read 128,664 times
Reputation: 90
Quote:
Originally Posted by lovebrentwood View Post
Durham has RTP. Raleigh does not have an RTP.
That is incorrect. The cities of Durham and Raleigh do not have one inch of RTP. The counties of Durham and Wake both have part of RTP. Please research it to understand how it was developed and divided up. It is very interesting.

To the prevoius poster about metro areas - I understand that. I was just commenting on how it seems to matter to some people who live where the number is better than the other when it really doesn't matter because a lot of people travel from one area to another to work. The Raleigh metro area could have a better unemployment number than the Durham metro area, but if you live in Durham and travel to Raleigh for work it doesn't matter to you which one is better. I am with lovebrentwood on this.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2009, 02:45 PM
 
1,489 posts, read 4,850,303 times
Reputation: 533
Well overall, it doesn't really mean much anyway. Let's not get into a pissing match over who's metro is feeling better about hiring more
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2009, 04:40 PM
 
6,168 posts, read 13,189,339 times
Reputation: 4421
So when Manpower surveys companies in Durham and Raleigh, who is including RTP companies? They went with MRSA, and I think RTP was included with Durham.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 10.7mOTB View Post
That is incorrect. The cities of Durham and Raleigh do not have one inch of RTP. The counties of Durham and Wake both have part of RTP. Please research it to understand how it was developed and divided up. It is very interesting.

To the prevoius poster about metro areas - I understand that. I was just commenting on how it seems to matter to some people who live where the number is better than the other when it really doesn't matter because a lot of people travel from one area to another to work. The Raleigh metro area could have a better unemployment number than the Durham metro area, but if you live in Durham and travel to Raleigh for work it doesn't matter to you which one is better. I am with lovebrentwood on this.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:



Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > North Carolina > Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, Cary
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2017, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 - Top