Hiring outlook brighter in Raleigh-Cary than in Durham (NOT A DURHAM BASH!) (2009, employment)

[tluv00]

Manpower: Hiring outlook brighter in Raleigh-Cary than in Durham - Triangle Business Journal:

Not bashing...just relaying!

[Francois]

Originally Posted by tluv00

Manpower: Hiring outlook brighter in Raleigh-Cary than in Durham - Triangle Business Journal:

Isn't Manpower largely a TEMP service? If their business is going UP, it could well mean that permanent employment opportunities are shrinking.

[sls76]

Originally Posted by Francois

Isn't Manpower largely a TEMP service? If their business is going UP, it could well mean that permanent employment opportunities are shrinking.

Yes they are, but I do not believe that their survey is about employers hiring temps, it's about whether or not employers will be hiring. Also, I believe the temp market tends to take off prior to an employment recovery although I have no idea whether we're anywhere near that right now.

[lovebrentwood]

Look behind the survey results.

Two things:

1. A percentage of Durham employers say they are pessimistic and will be having reductions.

The employers in Durham have many more EMPLOYEES (especially in RTP) than Raleigh does. So the number of actual EMPLOYEES affected by the reductions will be higher in Durham than Raleigh.

2. What difference does it make if a higher percentage of Raleigh employers are more optimistic than Durham? As TRIANGLE employees, we can potentially work in either city. The commute isn't that bad. Most of the time, I have worked in Durham, and I live in Raleigh.

So to me, it's a non-issue. Who cares if Raleigh is more optimistic and will have fewer reductions than Durham? It's nice to hear ANY employer is optimistic, but Raleigh's optimism in relation to Durham -- so what? (And I love Raleigh. )

And in the IT world, much of the work is contract. That's just the way they have done things -- for years. They hire for projects.

[10.7mOTB]

Originally Posted by lovebrentwood

Look behind the survey results.

Two things:

1. A percentage of Durham employers say they are pessimistic and will be having reductions.

The employers in Durham have many more EMPLOYEES (especially in RTP) than Raleigh does. So the number of actual EMPLOYEES affected by the reductions will be higher in Durham than Raleigh.

2. What difference does it make if a higher percentage of Raleigh employers are more optimistic than Durham? As TRIANGLE employees, we can potentially work in either city. The commute isn't that bad. Most of the time, I have worked in Durham, and I live in Raleigh.

So to me, it's a non-issue. Who cares if Raleigh is more optimistic and will have fewer reductions than Durham? It's nice to hear ANY employer is optimistic, but Raleigh's optimism in relation to Durham -- so what? (And I love Raleigh. )

And in the IT world, much of the work is contract. That's just the way they have done things -- for years. They hire for projects.

RTP is in neither our city of Raleigh or their city of Durham. Durham has more employess than Raleigh? I find that hard to believe. I am with you on what difference does it make on which city has more, but I have read a lot of posts where one side likes to toot their own horn precisely because of the numbers. It makes no difference. Most people commute.

[sls76]

Originally Posted by 10.7mOTB

RTP is in neither our city of Raleigh or their city of Durham. Durham has more employess than Raleigh? I find that hard to believe. I am with you on what difference does it make on which city has more, but I have read a lot of posts where one side likes to toot their own horn precisely because of the numbers. It makes no difference. Most people commute.

The article is not talking about the city of Raleigh v. the city of Durham. It's talking about MSAs so anything in Durham County (as well as Orange, Chatham and Person counties) are in the Durham MSA. That includes RTP.

[lovebrentwood]

Durham has RTP. Raleigh does not have an RTP.

[10.7mOTB]

Originally Posted by lovebrentwood

Durham has RTP. Raleigh does not have an RTP.

That is incorrect. The cities of Durham and Raleigh do not have one inch of RTP. The counties of Durham and Wake both have part of RTP. Please research it to understand how it was developed and divided up. It is very interesting.

To the prevoius poster about metro areas - I understand that. I was just commenting on how it seems to matter to some people who live where the number is better than the other when it really doesn't matter because a lot of people travel from one area to another to work. The Raleigh metro area could have a better unemployment number than the Durham metro area, but if you live in Durham and travel to Raleigh for work it doesn't matter to you which one is better. I am with lovebrentwood on this.

[coltank]

Well overall, it doesn't really mean much anyway. Let's not get into a pissing match over who's metro is feeling better about hiring more

[lovebrentwood]

So when Manpower surveys companies in Durham and Raleigh, who is including RTP companies? They went with MRSA, and I think RTP was included with Durham.

Originally Posted by 10.7mOTB

That is incorrect. The cities of Durham and Raleigh do not have one inch of RTP. The counties of Durham and Wake both have part of RTP. Please research it to understand how it was developed and divided up. It is very interesting.

To the prevoius poster about metro areas - I understand that. I was just commenting on how it seems to matter to some people who live where the number is better than the other when it really doesn't matter because a lot of people travel from one area to another to work. The Raleigh metro area could have a better unemployment number than the Durham metro area, but if you live in Durham and travel to Raleigh for work it doesn't matter to you which one is better. I am with lovebrentwood on this.