What's up with rude drivers here? (Raleigh, Cary: moving, commute, deals)
Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, CaryThe Triangle Area
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You missed my point entirely. If I'm already speeding to pass traffic on my right, I'm not going to speed even more just to suit someone behind me who wants to go even faster. They CAN wait. It's not about playing traffic cop, it's about my right to use a stretch of roadway to pass other traffic. If people are people feel the need to drive much faster, that's THEIR problem.
And of course you 'pass' traffic for miles and miles and miles, right?
And of course you 'pass' traffic for miles and miles and miles, right?
Between Chapel Hill and Cary/Raleigh, oftentimes, yes.
Sorry, but I'm not going to go out of my way to accommodate people who feel the need to go 10-20 mph faster than the posted limit. Call me rude all you want. Speeds of 60-71/72 are reasonable and prudent on much of I-40, any faster is generally reckless.
You missed my point entirely. If I'm already speeding to pass traffic on my right, I'm not going to speed even more just to suit someone behind me who wants to go even faster. They CAN wait. It's not about playing traffic cop, it's about my right to use a stretch of roadway to pass other traffic. If people are people feel the need to drive much faster, that's THEIR problem.
Thx for clarification - if you are in fact passing traffic and not just cruising along, I agree. However if there's someone behind you who wants to go faster and you can easily get out of the way by speeding up a bit more and getting over, you should. Common courtesy, for one, and you have no idea why that person is in a hurry. It could be an emergency or some other "legit" reason vs just wanting to drive fast.
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Originally Posted by StoneOne
Speeds of 60-71/72 are reasonable and prudent on much of I-40, any faster is generally reckless.
......in your opinion. You don't own the road FYI. Also the state of NC disagrees.
Just to clarify folks, I'm not one of the rude drivers out there. In fact, I'm often not on the interstate. I much prefer a leisurely drive on the backroads or NC 54 (except for the stop lights in Chapel Hill near Meadowmont), even if it takes longer.
If I'm on the interstate, I'll generally cruise in the right lane, often going 60-65. If I am in a hurry, I'll drive up to 72, but I really don't like how much gas it wastes. And how much stress it causes. And I don't like people behind me itching to go faster. Maybe I'd enjoy driving faster if I had a better car and felt I could trust other drivers more... Anyway, I think we all need to chill a bit more...
Just to clarify folks, I'm not one of the rude drivers out there. In fact, I'm often not on the interstate. I much prefer a leisurely drive on the backroads or NC 54 (except for the stop lights in Chapel Hill near Meadowmont), even if it takes longer.
If I'm on the interstate, I'll generally cruise in the right lane, often going 60-65. If I am in a hurry, I'll drive up to 72, but I really don't like how much gas it wastes. And how much stress it causes. And I don't like people behind me itching to go faster. Maybe I'd enjoy driving faster if I had a better car and felt I could trust other drivers more... Anyway, I think we all need to chill a bit more...
I like to cruise but sometimes I do have a pressing need to speed faster, usually up to 80mph. I rarely ever honk my horn and have only flipped off fellow drivers when they almost crashed into me and appeared to not give a crap or even notice. I think I end up honking my horn at deer, dogs and ducks (yes ducks) more often than anything out here. I am sure that would change in the Raleigh area considering my experience from my first ever visit to the city. I am sure that the extent of what I encountered is relatively rare, but it was still a shock.
Basically I had a bunch of rednecks in a truck (btw, nothing wrong with country kids; I'll define rednecks as not law-abiding and generally "hoodlums") who, when I passed them in the right lane--since they were incredibly slow in the left--proceeded to speed up about twenty miles per hour to catch up to me and then prevent me from ever passing back into the left lane, then they would slow down to match the speed of a car in front of me, then when I finally was able to get in the left lane because they were in the right, they got back in the left and went slow. This pretty much pissed me off, especially when all the rednecks in the back seat (extended cab truck) through out their one-fingered salutes even though my only "crime" was attempting to pass them. Pretty incredible.
I think given this, I would choose to drive on smaller arteries that aren't as well traveled. Attitudes are contagious after all, and I am sure that just this band of idiots has converted a few more drivers into being less considerate.
Sorry, but I'm not going to go out of my way to accommodate people who feel the need to go 10-20 mph faster than the posted limit. Call me rude all you want. Speeds of 60-71/72 are reasonable and prudent on much of I-40, any faster is generally reckless.
This is exactly the anti-social attitude that this thread is getting at. As the late great George Carlin said, "Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?" Face it -- we all have our own opinion about what speeds are safe. For some it is the speed limit, for you it is 7 MPH over, for others it is more. It is also going to vary with driving conditions. But one thing is for sure -- we will never all be in agreement on the one "correct" speed to drive. That being the case, we can choose to cooperate, follow the rules of the road, and use the shared resource more efficiently. Or we can choose to be self-centered, and waste the resource.
The failure to follow proper lane discipline only causes the drivers who feel the need to drive faster to weave between lanes and pass with unsafe clearances to achieve their goal. This makes everyone less safe, and makes traffic jams more frequent and more intense. A study in the Washington DC area showed that frequent lane changing resulted in the entire freeway moving at a speed averaging 7 MPH less than what it otherwise would.
Other drivers are going to drive faster whether you "accommodate" them or not. Wouldn't you rather have them passing in a safe manner than weaving through traffic? Wouldn't you rather have all of us save gas by having the traffic flow more efficiently?
Again, the issue is not whether drivers who are actively passing should feel obligated to yield the left lane. But if you are being passed on the right, this is a very strong clue that you shouldn't be in the left.
Just to clarify folks, I'm not one of the rude drivers out there.
Your other quotes refute this. Perhaps you are not actively rude, but I find your behavior inconsiderate in a passive-aggressive sense.
There is no way that you frequently have entire trips between Chapel Hill and Raleigh when you are actively passing the entire time, especially if you consider driving at more than 72 MPH to be reckless.
As discussed previously, everyone has a right to use the left lane, but no one has a right to drive in auto-pilot. If you can't be bothered to pay attention to when you are passing or not, please leave the left lane open for those that will.
This is exactly the anti-social attitude that this thread is getting at. As the late great George Carlin said, "Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?" Face it -- we all have our own opinion about what speeds are safe. For some it is the speed limit, for you it is 7 MPH over, for others it is more. It is also going to vary with driving conditions. But one thing is for sure -- we will never all be in agreement on the one "correct" speed to drive. That being the case, we can choose to cooperate, follow the rules of the road, and use the shared resource more efficiently. Or we can choose to be self-centered, and waste the resource.
The failure to follow proper lane discipline only causes the drivers who feel the need to drive faster to weave between lanes and pass with unsafe clearances to achieve their goal. This makes everyone less safe, and makes traffic jams more frequent and more intense. A study in the Washington DC area showed that frequent lane changing resulted in the entire freeway moving at a speed averaging 7 MPH less than what it otherwise would.
Other drivers are going to drive faster whether you "accommodate" them or not. Wouldn't you rather have them passing in a safe manner than weaving through traffic? Wouldn't you rather have all of us save gas by having the traffic flow more efficiently?
Again, the issue is not whether drivers who are actively passing should feel obligated to yield the left lane. But if you are being passed on the right, this is a very strong clue that you shouldn't be in the left.
It sounds like for the most part, he's not. I was thinking as y'all were (ie "lead follow or get out of the way") - if he's in the far right lane, IMO no one has a right to complain even if he's going 10 mph under. Just like he has no right to dictate to others to go slower, neither does anyone have a right to try and dictate him going faster.
when I passed them in the right lane--since they were incredibly slow in the left
I hate this too... some people just don't pay attention to their rear-views, then decide to speed up when they notice someone attempting to pass them.. Again, that issue with pride.
And don't get me started on those drivers who use the emergency lane to back up to the exit that they've missed!
Last edited by douknownam; 07-20-2009 at 08:41 AM..
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