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Old 06-01-2007, 09:15 AM
 
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Hello the sunny south

Finally I am approved to relocate to Raleigh. There is a land at west edge of Wake county boundary that can have a walk out basement that I am interested in and it has a wooded area (some trees) after my back yard with a slope going down. But there is a catch. The wooded area is used as storm/rain easement.

The two houses next to my lot also have a pond (drainage) behind in between them. I don't see them from my lot at ground level. These are new lots without house yet, and I don't see any water in the ponds and they are very shallow. My back yard does not have the pond and only the tree which can not be cut by law.

The realtor said they will put some concrete structure on top of those ponds and landscape it so it won't look too bad. All water pipes will be underground. I may only hear some running water noise outside the house when there is water coming in. He said the town of Cary will make it look nice. Further more, there is not much rain at Raleigh area (is that true ??).

This is my first time to learn this. Is this a bad thing or not? Any help is much much appreciated.

Northerner9
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:29 AM
 
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Is this in a neighborhood? If so which one?
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Blue Ridge Mtns of NC
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Further more, there is not much rain at Raleigh area (is that true ??).
Northerner9
According to the Southeast Regional Climate Center, Raleigh-Durham (RDU) receives an annual average of 42.53" of precipitation. However, 75% of the state is currently experiencing drought conditions. So far this year, the Triangle area rainfall is 4.42" below average.

Historical Climate Data for Raleigh-Durham (RDU)

RALEIGH DURHAM WSFO AP, NORTH CAROLINA - Climate Summary (http://cirrus.dnr.state.sc.us/cgi-bin/sercc/cliMAIN.pl?nc7069 - broken link)

State Drought Map
(May 29, 2007)

http://www.ncwater.org/drought/graphics/weekly_dm/20070529.pdf (broken link)

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Old 06-01-2007, 10:08 AM
 
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Is storm easement a bad thing in general ? Any one has experience with that ? Does anyone has one behind their house now ? My area is at the north west side of wake county. Close to RTP and my work :-) This is why I like it there. Thanks.
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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I personally think having a storm easement is better than not having one at all!

Something to keep in mind about the Piedmont: Soil consistency. There is more clay than sand, and it has a high iron content, making it red. There are dry spells in Raleigh and being more south than say Pennsylvania, it's more likely to get a heavier, more sudden kind of thunderstorm. Because of the high clay content and dry surface soil, it's hard for the soil to soak up the water and some pools and small flooding can happen. (This is why we won't live any closer than Raleigh to the coast!)

There is a shopping center called Crabtree Valley Mall in Raleigh. The left, older portion which looks more like a strip mall and not connected to the new mall has this problem. Where the Barnes & Noble is. When it rains hard,the shops sometimes have to close for a day or two, because the parking lot becomes a big messy puddle because of poor runoff planning. I have heard some of thsoe shops have had issues with flooding.

This is why most homes in the Piedmont are not built with basements.

However! There are areas which are alot less prone to this. Contact the USGS (Us geological Survey) for more information on flood mapping and Piedmont runoff.

On a side note, the nutrient-rich mineral deposits from NC and SC which bleed off into the ocean from the Carolina watersheds are what helps feed the algae and plankton offshore, which helps attract many delicious things like Tuna! So in my mind, if there is any company or system which keeps the environment happy it will be best for everything in the long run.
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Old 06-01-2007, 12:28 PM
 
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I do like to preserve the environment as much as possible in order to balance the ecosystem and keep the food chain in check, this is what keep all of us alive.

Back to my subject.... However, is this bad for the resale value of the house or cause any inconvenience or any damage to the house in the furure if there is a storm/rain easement behind it ?

The builder said the basement is water proof and it is a walk out basement, so the soil won't damage it when it expands and shrinks. Is that also true ?

Thanks
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Old 06-01-2007, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Asheville, NC
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Personally I think it would be good for resale. I think the easement is for the area in the 100-year flood plain. You (and whoever buys your home from you down the road) get to enjoy the trees and the fact that no one will EVER be able to build behind you! The city may even put in a greenway eventually, as Raleigh has done with Crabtree creek and other flood-prone areas that cannot be developed.

I think this is a good thing, but your may have to purchase flood insurance in case "the big one" comes...
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Old 06-01-2007, 02:28 PM
 
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How often does the "big one" come ? Any one has the historic record ? I do enjoy the tree behind the lot there....so there is now a trade off...

Thanks
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Old 06-01-2007, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Oxxford Hunt, Cary NC
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The realtor said they will put some concrete structure on top of those ponds and landscape it so it won't look too bad. All water pipes will be underground. I may only hear some running water noise outside the house when there is water coming in. He said the town of Cary will make it look nice. Further more, there is not much rain at Raleigh area (is that true ??).

This is my first time to learn this. Is this a bad thing or not? Any help is much much appreciated.
Northerner9
Personally I'd be leery of this - an easement is one thing, a concrete covered pond is another. I guess it depends on what your future buyers are looking for - I need a reasonably flat yard that can be fenced in. It doesn't sound like your property would fit in this category. On the other hand, maybe someone who wants a walk out basement bad enough wouldn't care about the easement and storm pond (whatever it's called).

There are some storm drains and easements in my neighborhood and they are *really* unattractive. I ruled out one house completely because of that (although it did sell, so what do I know).
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Old 06-01-2007, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Personally I think it would be good for resale. I think the easement is for the area in the 100-year flood plain. You (and whoever buys your home from you down the road) get to enjoy the trees and the fact that no one will EVER be able to build behind you!
Precisely! The home I just bought in Raleigh has this very same condition.
Beuatiful dense forest at the edge of our property that will always be there.

It was a major reason I decided to buy that particular house.
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