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Old 02-17-2014, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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Curious to see your thoughts on real estate designations. I.E. (GRI, ABR, EPRO, CNE, etc.) Are they worth while to go after getting when the general public doesn't understand what they are or would is be better to just become an Associate Broker when possible and fore go getting any other designations?

I have thought about just going and getting my broker's license as the general public recognizes this and become an associate broker, but will I be missing out on valuable learning by not getting any other designations? After all, I would think by holding an "Associate Broker" title would mean your held to a higher standard in what you will be able to provide to your clients?

Just trying to get some different opinions.

My general thought is that if you can say your an Associate Broker no one will question how long you have been in the business, but even if you have been in R.E. for many years and say I am a REALTOR, with designation A, B, and C people may still be curious of how long that may be..?

As I REALTOR, I understand designations and what they mean to have and hold and have respect for other agents with them, but my opinion is the general public only may understand Real Estate Agent and Broker? Is this correct?

-Trent

P.S. This may not apply to all states as I believe some states only have "Brokers", but I am in AZ..
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Old 02-17-2014, 03:28 PM
 
Location: El Dorado Hills, CA
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I doubt that the public knows the difference between a Realtor selling agent and an associate broker. Get the training you want and need rather than worrying about which designation will hold you in higher esteem. Having good working knowledge will be what impresses people.
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Old 02-17-2014, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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I have the CNE.
I was going to finally do GRI this year, and NC is rewriting the curriculum, and there will be no classes until October or November.

Most of the courses I see advertised look nearly meaningless.
And I see agents with long lists of initials after their names making the same ethical and skills and legal blunders as newbies with no initials after their names, and groaning about taking CE at the last minute, etc.
All too often, you hear an agent say, "Well, I got my XYZ." It seems reasonable to ask, "So, did you learn anything?"
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Old 02-17-2014, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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I have the CNE.
I was going to finally do GRI this year, and NC is rewriting the curriculum, and there will be no classes until October or November.

Most of the courses I see advertised look nearly meaningless.
And I see agents with long lists of initials after their names making the same ethical and skills and legal blunders as newbies with no initials after their names, and groaning about taking CE at the last minute, etc.
All too often, you hear an agent say, "Well, I got my XYZ." It seems reasonable to ask, "So, did you learn anything?"
What did you think of the CNE?
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Old 02-17-2014, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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What did you think of the CNE?
I like that I don't have to pay every year to claim my alphabet soup!

It was pretty new, and the guy was from AZ, where they do things quite differently (We can't draft documents like they do.), but I pulled a nugget or two out of it.
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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I like that I don't have to pay every year to claim my alphabet soup!

It was pretty new, and the guy was from AZ, where they do things quite differently (We can't draft documents like they do.), but I pulled a nugget or two out of it.
We are like that too. We can draft addenda. I have a whole clause library that has been reviewed by my company attorney for my agents. I try and keep the roguishness to a minimum.
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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We are like that too. We can draft addenda. I have a whole clause library that has been reviewed by my company attorney for my agents. I try and keep the roguishness to a minimum.
In the time we were in class, we had to correct him multiple times when he told us to "Just write a short addendum...." "We can't do that." I think he had not spent enough time outside AZ.
But, he had a reasonably well thought-out approach to breaking down the negotiation process and teaching recognizing where you were.
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Old 02-17-2014, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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In the time we were in class, we had to correct him multiple times when he told us to "Just write a short addendum...." "We can't do that." I think he had not spent enough time outside AZ.
But, he had a reasonably well thought-out approach to breaking down the negotiation process and teaching recognizing where you were.
We had issues with one of the CNE instructors, too; however, Oliver Frascona was wonderful. I took the class twice as I took it with Oliver in 2012 along with 7 other members of our office. Then I took it again (for quite a reduced price) when I took 12 more members of our office to the course.

Now, as for the material, outstanding!!! Well worth every dollar of the course, even twice.
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Old 02-17-2014, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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Curious to see your thoughts on real estate designations. I.E. (GRI, ABR, EPRO, CNE, etc.) Are they worth while to go after getting when the general public doesn't understand what they are or would is be better to just become an Associate Broker when possible and fore go getting any other designations?

I have thought about just going and getting my broker's license as the general public recognizes this and become an associate broker, but will I be missing out on valuable learning by not getting any other designations? After all, I would think by holding an "Associate Broker" title would mean your held to a higher standard in what you will be able to provide to your clients?

Just trying to get some different opinions.

My general thought is that if you can say your an Associate Broker no one will question how long you have been in the business, but even if you have been in R.E. for many years and say I am a REALTOR, with designation A, B, and C people may still be curious of how long that may be..?

As I REALTOR, I understand designations and what they mean to have and hold and have respect for other agents with them, but my opinion is the general public only may understand Real Estate Agent and Broker? Is this correct?

-Trent

P.S. This may not apply to all states as I believe some states only have "Brokers", but I am in AZ..

I can't and won't attempt to answer all your concerns. I will only point to the evidence that CRS designees are involved in nearly 25% of all American transactions. Was it because they were good, or was it because the course work made them better? I will not refer to anyone who is not a CRS.

I have: CRS, CRB, CDPE, CIAS, e-pro, SFR, CNE, and I am a principal broker in KY and IN. No doubt the single most valuable course was CRS 201 Listing

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Old 02-18-2014, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I think most of them are pretty useless. Get your Brokers license first. I do pretty well and don't maintain any designations other than Realtor/Broker.
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