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Old 08-07-2014, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Western NC
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I am listing a property where someone was murdered about 10 years ago. It was a tenant who killed his wife then turned himself in. I really don't want to use the word "murder" when explaining this event. Here is what we have come up with so far. Any other suggestions?

"A woman died in the rental house approximately 10 years ago after loosing an argument with her husband"
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Call it what it was... "homicide" is a bit more clinical though. Euphemisms for that kind of thing cheapen the life of the victim and make it look like you're lowbrow and/or hiding something and by extension are untrustworthy to work with.
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:20 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Does NC law mandate that a murder on the property be disclosed at all? From my recollection a couple of states have mandated that a violent death in a home in the prior three years must be disclosed but in other cases I believe that most mandate it only if the potential buyer actually asks.

This is something that happened 10 years ago and I see no reason at all to even bring it up unless state law decrees it.

And if you're compelled to write something, at least make it grammatically correct. "Losing" not "loosing" and that much information is TMI anyway in my opinion.
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Western NC
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And if you're compelled to write something, at least make it grammatically correct. "Losing" not "loosing" and that much information is TMI anyway in my opinion.
Oops. So much for rereading what I wrote for errors

I'm not positive that this needs to be disclosed and we are checking into it.
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Old 08-07-2014, 11:16 AM
 
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I'm not positive that this needs to be disclosed and we are checking into it.
Yes, you need to figure that out first.

"This house is to die for" would sound a bit tacky.
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Old 08-07-2014, 11:44 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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"This house is to die for" would sound a bit tacky.
Oh GROAN!!!! But thanks for the chuckle!
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Old 08-07-2014, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Lakewood Ranch, FL
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"This house is to die for" would sound a bit tacky.
That was a LOL moment.
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Old 08-07-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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Does NC law mandate that a murder on the property be disclosed at all? From my recollection a couple of states have mandated that a violent death in a home in the prior three years must be disclosed but in other cases I believe that most mandate it only if the potential buyer actually asks.

This is something that happened 10 years ago and I see no reason at all to even bring it up unless state law decrees it.

And if you're compelled to write something, at least make it grammatically correct. "Losing" not "loosing" and that much information is TMI anyway in my opinion.
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My advice, disclose it upfront. Name, date. Police report #, court conviction records. If the buyer has questions reffer them to the cops. It's better to discloes up front then waste a bunch of time and money when buyers cancel escrow. Trying to spin it or cover-up will only make you look dishonest and complict.

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Old 08-07-2014, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Western NC
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What I've been able to find out so far is that this does not need to be disclosed but I still think it should be. I once represented a seller who had been on the convicted sex offender list. Of course, I didn't find this out until it was under contract and even though the guy no longer had to register with the state, it was still a fact that the buyers were not comfortable with. So in terms of someone being killed in the rental house at this property, I think it should be disclosed regardless but there has to be a less stark way of stating it than "a person was murdered here". I don't want to minimize what happened to the victim but neither do I want to hurt a potential sale for my seller who had nothing to do with it.
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Old 08-07-2014, 12:29 PM
 
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So in terms of someone being killed in the rental house at this property, I think it should be disclosed regardless but there has to be a less stark way of stating it than "a person was murdered here". I don't want to minimize what happened to the victim but neither do I want to hurt a potential sale for my seller who had nothing to do with it.
IMO, the best way to "represent" and "de-emotionalize" the event is by providing un-embelished facts.Date.Names.Police report#. Simple. If the buyer wants more info it's up to them to research facts like the police report. Refrain from offering opinions or rummors. Allow the buyer to come to thier own colnclusions. I think you'll find that most folks won't view this as a deal breaker. If the home and price are right, they find away to justify the history.
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