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Old 08-01-2008, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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And why would that bother me? I am the client, paying the money, and want to be in an area with other families similar to mine.
(Sorry if that's not politically correct, but I'm not too keen on all this government boo-ha ha meddling of what we say and how we say it.)

You know, sorry, but fair housing act don't fly in my book. You have all these limitations, EXCEPT age. Yet it's okay for 55+ older communities to exist. That's a double standard.

"I can't tell you where there are lots of kids, but I can tell you where there are senior citizens." Please, give me a break!
Put a different protected class in there and maybe it will make more sense to you. "Steering" has an old and dishonorable heritage, and the Fair Housing laws exist because of that.

In any case, the point was that your agent is breaking the law if they are telling you that. Some due diligence a buyer has to do for themselves.
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Put a different protected class in there and maybe it will make more sense to you. "Steering" has an old and dishonorable heritage, and the Fair Housing laws exist because of that.

In any case, the point was that your agent is breaking the law if they are telling you that. Some due diligence a buyer has to do for themselves.
If an agent has no respect for Fair Housing law, it isn't difficult to imagine other legal and ethical considerations that he may be just as cavalier about.

That nasty old RESPA comes to mind.
"Fiduciary Duty" comes to mind.
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Thanks Rose. Looks like the new agent is off to a good start, he's already sending me listings & such.

My mom hates the fact that we're looking even further away from where she lives (2 hours vs. 1 hour) but I can't help it. I've looked for 3 months in the areas she wanted me to. Can't say I haven't given it the old college try...
As the buyer, you can specify any and all criterea you want and your agent works off that.

What no agent can do is assume and steer you to or away from certain neighborhoods. It's a federal law.
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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As the buyer, you can specify any and all criterea you want and your agent works off that.

What no agent can do is assume and steer you to or away from certain neighborhoods. It's a federal law.
Not exactly. If you say, "I don't want to live in a neighborhood with black people," for example (or any of the other protected classes), your agent should tell you that they can't use that criteria and if you insist, they should decline to work with you, if they want to be in compliance with Fair Housing Law.
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Old 08-02-2008, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Not exactly. If you say, "I don't want to live in a neighborhood with black people," for example (or any of the other protected classes), your agent should tell you that they can't use that criteria and if you insist, they should decline to work with you, if they want to be in compliance with Fair Housing Law.

A different way of handling this is to turn it around and be the source of the source. Direct the buyer to sources of demographic information and let them tell you what neighborhoods or school districts they want to focus on.

The Fair Housing Act doesn't forbid discrimination by buyers who prefer certain locations over others, does it?
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Old 08-03-2008, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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A different way of handling this is to turn it around and be the source of the source. Direct the buyer to sources of demographic information and let them tell you what neighborhoods or school districts they want to focus on.

The Fair Housing Act doesn't forbid discrimination by buyers who prefer certain locations over others, does it?
Exactly. There are all sorts of resources on demographics available online these days, and referring someone to these to do their own due diligence is legal.

No, it doesn't. It simply forbids discrimination on the part of sellers and landlords and anyone who makes money in real estate. (Roughly what the statute said when I read it yesterday - and, yes, real estate agents do fit within the explicit definition in the statute.) WE can't choose to only show houses in all white neighborhoods, for example. We simply provide houses that meet the other criteria and it's up to the buyer to choose to purchase them or not.
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