Not going back to 'Realtor'

[Rakin]

Anything named "Realtor" should be emailed to NAR. I believe they have a special email address to report abuse of the term and they will follow up.

I turned in a guy once using a website like dallasreator.com They don't like the use of the term commercially for profit.

[c21boquetebocasgold]

Originally Posted by Rakin

Anything named "Realtor" should be emailed to NAR. I believe they have a special email address to report abuse of the term and they will follow up.

I turned in a guy once using a website like dallasreator.com They don't like the use of the term commercially for profit.

Thanks, Rakin. I've kept the publication and almost blew a gasket when I saw it. I'll check NAR's site so I can scan/email the cover to them. Seems like I'm constantly correcting people when they refer to people down here as 'Realtors'. I just tell them that as a former Realtor from the States, I'm a bit quirky about people using the term when it's a designation for a member of NAR - not another word for 'real estate agent'.

[Brandon Hoffman]

So my post got cut because I suggested he look for a common denominator in each of his deals and to start with a mirror? Call me a skeptic, but I doubt every Realtor in Florida is unethical.

While you're at it, why don't you cut the original post for being a lie? Or perhaps because he is advertising for himself how he's better than Realtors and more ethical? I guess honesty doesn't get you too far anymore.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by Thatguywho

Realtor association?........

I was originally licensed in 1967. I became a member of NAR in 1968. I have been a member of NAR continuously since that time. I have not missed a NAR convention in all those years either - the education and networking and trade show have been absolutely invaluable in my success.

Now, the reason I related all this is, it would seem that you have allowed a couple of people totally ruin your objective perspective of an organization that does FAR MORE than merely provide access to an MLS.

Frankly - and this is my opinion - with NAR and their staff of professionals, you might not be able to sell property the way you do now. The attempted intrusions into our business over the years have been intense - and are being intensified. And it is NAR that has been at the forefront of keeping organizations like the big banks out of real estate.

And there is much, much more.

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water. I strongly suggest you look beyond - FAR BEYOND, the end of your nose and do some serious re-evaluation regarding a continuing relationship with NAR.

Good luck to you regardless of which way you choose to go.

[kevcrawford]

Originally Posted by Thatguywho

I started in 1999 and in one year started my own RE office out of my house with my girlfriend.

from late 1999 to that start of my brokerage in jan 2001 it was starvation time as I learned the business.....and that listings is where it is at.

By june 2001 I was not doing well yet, but in july I picked up and sold 7 listings...all in the same month. I caught up on bills and invested in some good advertising.

August I picked up another 7 houses....and then september 12th, 2001 all of them called and canceled their listings. Since my contracts allowed a pullout without reservation that was that.

I was broke again..lol. All that advertising...done.

2002 and 2003 I was also a mortgage broker and both businesses made me a few bucks but never really recovered from that 9/11 thing. Ended up having to sell the house to stay afloat.

From 2003 to 2006 I refused to do real estate as the boom was just not right. I did have one agent working for me...well, a friend hanging a license.

Every single deal from 2003 to 2006 was a nightmare. Each time the realtor was trying something unethical and in some cases the seller/buyer was too.
I won every battle and as it went into 2006 and it was worse.
I went toe to toe with caldwell, exit realty, and other companies who tried to do things that were unethical and more.
Going against big companies was a nightmare, but I won.

I got two jobs from 2003 to 2006 (on onwards) to make money since I was not doing real estate....just fighting the companies for my friend on each deal she did. I spent all of that time and into current day begging people not to buy homes. I refused to help them buy them, I could have made a fortune as I know a lot of people.
All of those people are losing their homes or are saddled with debt so bad they will eventually have to give it up.

so...realtors...realtor association....ugh.
Sorry. I was brought up to believe it was about ethics. It is not.
it is about the mls and that is it.

I have seen and heard so many bad things, many from the largest companies. And these stupid fees and one sided contracts.
It is just not ethical enough for me.


I am getting back into Real Estate and mortgages now, though will still not sell or help buy an over priced home or mortgage....but cannot, will not, join the NAR.

Their BS about the 'time to buy is now' and the eventual 'housing bottom' talk and all their public relations stuff was just horrid during the boom. My local and florida associations treated me like dirt when I tried to get them to add my articles about the coming land bust to their publications or websites..I was right, they were wrong, they helped hurt people.


With no real ethics and just the MLS, I think I can do better.

However, it is hard to not have the MLS....but the internet can make up for that if done correctly...


As for my fellow realtors down here in south florida......just looking at craigslist postings make me sick...

1- you cannot even put sales in sales and rentals in rentals section....can't you even read?

2- renting a house in foreclosure and not disclosing it is unethical you moronic scumbags.

3- advertising improperly is not just unethical, it is against state statute....morons.

4- It is pronounced 'Real-tor' not 'Real-a-tor'....

5- for those being investigated.......you deserve it...you really do.

6- Now is not the time to buy......unless you have a really honest realtor who will research the property and do the math....and understand prices are going to continue to fall (here in southeast florida).

As a warning to mortgage and home seekers....never say you are 'a first time homebuyer' that is like walking into a casino and saying you never played poker before.....the greedy scumbags will absolutely rape you financially and leave you hanging... Do not believe it? Look at the people that are hanging now....


Realtor association?....... kiss my honest real estate licensed butt.

This attitude is the reason you failed.

[shellytc]

Originally Posted by Brandon Hoffman

So my post got cut because I suggested he look for a common denominator in each of his deals and to start with a mirror? Call me a skeptic, but I doubt every Realtor in Florida is unethical.

While you're at it, why don't you cut the original post for being a lie? Or perhaps because he is advertising for himself how he's better than Realtors and more ethical? I guess honesty doesn't get you too far anymore.

tried to rep you brandon, but I gotta spread the love around first, LOL!! :r is it a conspiracy to keep you from getting too many rep points? hmmmm::

shellytc

[c21boquetebocasgold]

Originally Posted by shellytc

tried to rep you brandon, but I gotta spread the love around first, LOL!! :r is it a conspiracy to keep you from getting too many rep points? hmmmm::

shellytc

Took care of it, Shelly though hit send half-way through writing comment so last part was gibberish lol

[Rakin]

The OP has not been around CD since his post. To bad these guys throw out a bunch of BS and can't have the courtesy to discuss their post. People like him are the ones who give the profession a black eye.

Hit & Run

[Brandon Hoffman]

Very well said Greatday. Sometimes we forget about the victories. Wish I could rep you.