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Old 07-16-2012, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Courage
Tough love her but I am beginning to think you agonize, expect, demand so much that you might want to look inward a bit.
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Selling a house in business, not personal. The sooner you get over that the happier you will be.
As an outsider with no dog in this race, I think the two posters above have nailed what the real problem is. Over-reacting emotionally when things don't go exactly our way will only leave us in a tizzy, which is obviously the case for the OP. Life is not perfect, and people are not perfect either. So in reaction to all the imperfections, the OP can either work herself into a frenzy or deal with things on a rational basis.

 
Old 07-16-2012, 05:43 PM
 
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As an outsider with no dog in this race, I think the two posters above have nailed what the real problem is. Over-reacting emotionally when things don't go exactly our way will only leave us in a tizzy, which is obviously the case for the OP. Life is not perfect, and people are not perfect either. So in reaction to all the imperfections, the OP can either work herself into a frenzy or deal with things on a rational basis.

there you go.. now YOU are getting personal
 
Old 07-16-2012, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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there you go.. now YOU are getting personal
No, I'm not really. I am just analysing the situation as presented. You are shooting the messenger rather than rebutting the message.
 
Old 07-16-2012, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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Our Realtor was there at the showing when buyers came to look around and ask questions because
their realtor was unavailable..

Their realtor may have had a case of the jitters to see us because
after she showed them our house she knocked on the neighbors door
and asked for an impromptu showing of their home which is "for sale by owner".
No problem, but could have let us know we could go home again..
after an hour looking at our house, then an hour and a half at the neighbors
who, btw, have a pricetag waaaaay above what the buyers are looking to spend which is under $200K
2 and a half (!@%^#$+$@!~&^4) and didn't have the decency to pick up her little phone!
Instead we were sweltering in the car w/4 year old and two panting dogs wasting gas and driving in circles to the tune of more crying.. which we all felt like doing.
It was too hot to simply go to the park.. it was 104 degrees out w/ high humidity.
Did you make arrangements for the buyer agent to call you when they were done? I only do that if the seller requests I do. As a listing agent I tell my clients to be gone for about 45 minutes, then return home. Honestly, at some point you have to let common sense kick in. I assume you are a first time home seller?
 
Old 07-16-2012, 06:02 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Over-reacting emotionally when things don't go exactly our way will only leave us in a tizzy, which is obviously the case for the OP
Are you serious? Any realtor in my city would be left without one client if h/she behaved like either of the realtors on this thread. Overreacting? The OP is making a statement about a series of events, which provides a warning to others.

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Life is not perfect, and people are not perfect either. So in reaction to all the imperfections, the OP can either work herself into a frenzy or...
We're hardly talking about perfection. More like inconsideration, unethical behavior and greed (commission).
 
Old 07-16-2012, 06:06 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Are you serious? Any realtor in my city would be left without one client if h/she behaved like either of the realtors on this thread. Overreacting? The OP is making a statement about a series of events, which provides a warning to others.
You don't think someone pulling their house off the market from one bad experience with a buyer isn't overreacting? It is liking cutting off your nose to spite your face. Who really got hurt here?
 
Old 07-16-2012, 06:14 PM
 
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First find a different realtor who feel will not "patronize" you. Second find a sitter for the child OR go to the mall for a couple hours or gain better control of the child's behavior. Third, leave the dogs at home but secured in a basement, laundry room or garage or take them to a friend's home for a few hours. Fourth, if you do NOT want to be available to answer questions then don't be available. Anything can go through the realtor and questions can be asked later and answered then the realtor can contact the buyers.

If none of the above is appealing to you then don't sell the home and stay where you are.
 
Old 07-16-2012, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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We're hardly talking about perfection. More like inconsideration, unethical behavior and greed (commission).
This is probably more locale specific. Out here we are happy to answer any questions a buyer might have before an offer. The reason is that informed buyers rarely back out of deals. Selling a home is really stressful, as the OP is finding out, and if you can minimize a sale fail that is good for the seller. Nothing worse than packing up your house to have a deal fall through and then have to unpack. I don't see this as incompetence to allow such conversations to occur. I do only allow face to face conversations with certain sellers though. Some sellers do better if they don't have to see the buyers. It's about knowing what your client can and can't do well. Some sellers rock being with buyers and close the deal because they are so great at selling their own home.

What I gather from the OP's situation is that they have never sold a home before based on their reaction to the situation, and need a much better hand holding agent who can help them set some boundaries around the selling process. We have loads of dogs out here and they are often left in garages during first showings.

I have no idea what an agent is supposed to do about their home being buzzed by the Cessna other than complain to the other agent's broker. That just isn't an everyday situation. It would never occur to me to tell my pilot clients, "oh by the way, please don't buzz the sellers home." That's just weird and agents can't anticipate weird behavior by clients.
 
Old 07-16-2012, 09:20 PM
 
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Oh dear.

We found a house we loved. Listed at $339. Had been on the market on and off for over a year. They fixed the house up nice, must have fixed every room but the kitchen, but we loved it. Then the drama came.

We offer $300 which we knew was low, but seeing as they had no offers for months, we wanted to see how they would come back. They took a few days and finally came back with $337500. My wife wanted to walk away and not even counter, but we talked it out. We knew our offer was out of the ballpark and just an opening salvo so we figured theres was too.

So we come back with $310. Again they take a few days and come back with $335. Now I begin to question if they are serious. Me and the wife discuss again, we decide to bump it up the average of the comparables around the house as we finally think this is the one. Hard to really be upset a this point, so we kept going.

This continues for a few more offers until they settle at $330 as their final offer, not willing to budge anymore. They also stipulate that they want closing to be later than we wanted. This would cause us to stay past our lease in our Appt and pay $1500 more in rent. So we went back to them saying we would agree to their final price if they help us out with the rent for the time they needed to delay closing. They insta-rejected that and stood firm on $330 no sweeteners.

Me and the wife finally agree to bite the bullet and go for it, this was it. The comes the inspection. We agree upon a price, set up an inspection for 2 days later and they agree. Find out the day of the inspection oh that won't work for us we are having a dinner party then and oh and btw we want a 4-5 month closing at minimum.

We thought about it but it just seemed to us they either didn't want to sell or something else was going on so we walked away.

Supposedly someone offered listing and agreed to a 6 month closing, but I can't fathom that, I guess we shall see what happens.
 
Old 07-16-2012, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Florida Gulf Coast
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I get the impression that maybe the agent left her car at your house while she and her clients went to look at the house next-door? When I was selling, I never had a pre-set amount of time to be gone; I'd give it 45 mins. or so but wouldn't go back until it looked like the coast was clear. Sometimes the agent's car would still be there and I'd have to go kill more time. I would NOT be happy if I had to kill time while the agent was giving a tour of the competition's house. One time, we all cleared out and then came back when the agent and her client left. My little son took a shower and was getting ready for bed when -- ding-dong -- they were back and wanted to see the house again. Turns out they had toured all the other homes-for-sale in my development and liked mine best, so they wanted to see it again. I happily cleared out AGAIN, and had an offer the next day.

There's no way I would meet with prospective buyers for a Q&A. Everything would have to go through my agent first. And then there are the buyers who want to come in AFTER the offer but BEFORE the closing. (Measure for drapes, etc.) I don't like that. Too many things can go wrong....they start looking around, noticing things they didn't see before, nit-picking about spackling holes where pictures were, etc.

Anyway, to your original question, buyers can be a pain-in-the-*** but it sounds like you had some unique unfortunate circumstances. I mean, buzzing the house in a plane....sheesh....how often does that happen?
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