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Old 08-19-2013, 11:09 AM
 
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A good reason to get a Title Insurance Policy paid for by the seller. Doesn't Florida do Title Policies ?

The Insurance Policy should take care of this problem.
But it sounds like the title policy only covered the value of the land--not the house which was subsequently built upon it. So, theoretically, a title company could get out of it by only paying for the value insured.

Also from the story, if I read it correctly, was that the lien was not recorded against the property, but that it was a general lien simply recorded in the County which supposedly affected all properties owned by the debtor. If that was the case, Florida should seriously consider changing their state law. A lien, IMO, should be recorded against a particular property--otherwise it's not the best form of public notice, as this case demonstrates.
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:56 AM
 
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A competent title searcher should have found the lien. A title search searches for liens not only against the property but also against the grantor ( the person selling the property). Then it's the job of the title searcher to read those liens, easements, etc. found and determine, which, if any, may apply to the property in question. Somebody dropped the ball or the buyer was bamboozled by the seller who seems to have been wearing several hats.
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Old 08-19-2013, 05:10 PM
 
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Also from the story, if I read it correctly, was that the lien was not recorded against the property, but that it was a general lien simply recorded in the County which supposedly affected all properties owned by the debtor
Sounds like ammunition for a lawyer.
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Old 08-22-2013, 05:16 PM
 
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The lawyers were also the sellers.
Then the buyer is stupid. This is also conflict of interest.
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:33 PM
 
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I think its the title insurance's job to make sure there are no issues in that area of the sale.

If anything goes wrong, they ought to pay. They are supposed to run a search to make sure there are no issues. If they don't find something that's out there, its on them.
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Ocala, FL
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I think its the title insurance's job to make sure there are no issues in that area of the sale.

If anything goes wrong, they ought to pay. They are supposed to run a search to make sure there are no issues. If they don't find something that's out there, its on them.
I predict a certain law firm's attorneys losing their FL license and a title company going out of business over this incredibly stupid transaction.

There is no excuse for the seller's actions and the title agent for not catching this from the beginning.
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Old 08-23-2013, 05:19 AM
 
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Then the buyer is stupid. This is also conflict of interest.
Yeah but they probably didn't have to pay any stupid Realtor commission.
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Old 08-26-2013, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Lexington, SC
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Yeah but they probably didn't have to pay any stupid Realtor commission.

While I agree, this situation was far over the head of most realtors. No matter how much some try and play lawyers, few are. I seriously doubt a realtor could have protected anyone.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Ocala, FL
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I seriously doubt a realtor could have protected anyone.
Absolutely true and the sad thing is the many realtors who tried to work with this type of transaction would have advised the buyer to consult a real estate attorney. Didn't work to well in this story for the buyer.

Reminds me about the joke about a dozen lawyers up to their neck in concrete.........not enough concrete.
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