Reasonably priced = reasonable buyers? (fixed rates, broker, contracts, default)

[PotterGeek]

To be honest if you wouldn't allow my children to play with yours because I got a bargain on my house, I'd think you were shallow and not worth my time, and I'd be glad that my children wouldn't have a chance to be influenced by you or your family. Your loss, not mine.

I am assuming you read my other post, and you didn't mean "me" personally...

You'd be surprised how some people are...
There are these two little boys in our neighborhood that hardly any of the other kids in the development play with, but I encourage my son and daughter to play with them and they get along fine. I can't understand why some parents are like that, or for what reason why they aren't more included, but that's what I meant by "I see it everyday"...

[nativeDallasite]

Originally Posted by leavingbyron

I am assuming you read my other post, and you didn't mean "me" personally...

Nope, just people who would not allow my children to play with theirs because I did not allow myself to be ripped off.

[AnthonyB]

Originally Posted by leavingbyron

Although, I think the quote you made "I would hope to be treated as I treat others" is kinda contradictory (for some of the other posters on here anyways...)

Excuse me?

[AnthonyB]

Originally Posted by InflationNation

Folks here have a hidden agenda to keep prices afloat, nativeDallasite. As I've mentioned as counterpoints, kids will find friends to play with through other community ventures and the people who follow you into the neighborhood getting a good deal will be your best friends. Just look at the public records periodically for people who move into the same neighborhood and discretely make quick friends with all of the other bargain scoopers.

I agree, this "retribution" stuff is just nonsense. I have no doubt this kind of pettiness exists, but lets look at a hypothetical scenario:

Old couple gets ill and enters a nursing home. Their family needs to sell in order to pay for the care. They sell quickly to a young family happy that they were able to stretch their budget to a nicer neighbourhood, that their kids can go to better schools and Mom can stay home for another year or two with the youngest rather than go back to work to cover a debilitating mortgage. Because that is what a good deal on a house actually means to many families.
The neighbours are unhappy, rude and vindictive towards them because of a drop in the percieved (yes percieved because unless someone actually hands over money, the value of a house is all in someones head) "value" of their homes. To the extent that they will actually tell lies about them and ostracize their children.

And let me get this straight, according to several posters here - the family with the good fortune to buy a home for a decent price are self absorbed, refuse to care for others or look outside their own narrow interests and deserving of karmic "payback"?

Am I the only one who sees the hypocracy dripping all over the page?

[PotterGeek]

No, but there is a difference in getting a "good deal" and intentionally "sucking someone's eyes out" just because you can...

A good deal is excellent.

Taking extreme advantage of others situations for your your benefit is not excellent...

[InflationNation]

Originally Posted by leavingbyron

No, but there is a difference in getting a "good deal" and intentionally "sucking someone's eyes out" just because you can...

A good deal is excellent.

Taking extreme advantage of others situations for your your benefit is not excellent...

Sellers won't accept an offer that isn't in line with market conditions. Simple as that. No amount of smugness and threats of neighborhood retaliation change that indisputable fact and no rational buyer changes their offering price reflective of even the remote possibility of this occurrence.

I HIGHLY doubt that people subscribing to this nonsense would ever intentionally offer more than they think they could get a house for.

[AnthonyB]

Originally Posted by leavingbyron

No, but there is a difference in getting a "good deal" and intentionally "sucking someone's eyes out" just because you can...

A good deal is excellent.

Taking extreme advantage of others situations for your your benefit is not excellent...

?????

A realtor who lies to a client about market conditions in order to get a special deal for themselves or a family member is "taking advantage".

Offering someone cold hard cash for something they don't want any more and have offered on the open market is not taking advantage, it is called offering to buy something. Just like getting the highest price possible in a hot market isn't "sucking someones eyes out", it is selling at the best price.

Nobody is forced at gunpoint to sell their home for a specific amount, just as nobody was forced at gunpoint to overpay when the market was skyrocketing.

This whole argument that offering a fair price is wrong/mean/unfair/selfish because it might not make everyone happy is just bizarre in the extreme. And yes, very self absorbed. I'm sorry you haven't been able to sell your home, and sorry you haven't had any offers at the price you want, but that does not make potential buyers evil.

[InflationNation]

Originally Posted by AnthonyB

?????

A realtor who lies to a client about market conditions in order to get a special deal for themselves or a family member is "taking advantage".

Offering someone cold hard cash for something they don't want any more and have offered on the open market is not taking advantage, it is called offering to buy something. Just like getting the highest price possible in a hot market isn't "sucking someones eyes out", it is selling at the best price.

Nobody is forced at gunpoint to sell their home for a specific amount, just as nobody was forced at gunpoint to overpay when the market was skyrocketing.

This whole argument that offering a fair price is wrong/mean/unfair/selfish because it might not make everyone happy is just bizarre in the extreme. And yes, very self absorbed. I'm sorry you haven't been able to sell your home, and sorry you haven't had any offers at the price you want, but that does not make potential buyers evil.

More to the point, I'm sorry that he's jealous that someone might (or already has) gotten a much better deal on a house than he did.

[JinMS]

Originally Posted by leavingbyron

No, that is life, and unfortunately, there are some petty & vindictive people out there. I myself am not one (though I am guilty of gossip, I don't know many who are not). But it doesn't matter if you got in a community on the cheap, or whatever the reason, I see it in my neighborhood everyday, there are some parents in our development that won't let their kids play with certain other kids. It's very sad, too, because you know the kids shouldn't be blamed for their parents actions, or perceptions of their parents as a whole.

Although, I think the quote you made "I would hope to be treated as I treat others" is kinda contradictory (for some of the other posters on here anyways...)

Well, if this kind of gossip about your vicious, petty neighborhood gets around, it's probably going to negatively affect the resale values there!

[nativeDallasite]

Originally Posted by leavingbyron

No, but there is a difference in getting a "good deal" and intentionally "sucking someone's eyes out" just because you can...

A good deal is excellent.

Taking extreme advantage of others situations for your your benefit is not excellent...

I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. If someone feels my offer is unacceptable, they are free to turn it down. I cannot MAKE someone accept my offer. That's all on them.

They can accept what the market will bear, or they can stay in their present situation. A house is only worth what someone will pay for it, and there is no guarantee that you will not LOSE money when selling a house. Period. I'm not going to allow pity for people that I don't know and will never see again to cloud my own better judgement, and frankly I'm sick of the "it's not fair" and "you'll be sorry" whining. It's vindictive and immature. I bet a lot of those same whiners are the ones who slammed whining first-time buyers who couldn't afford to get on the ladder, accusing them of "jealousy". It's so hypocritical it's disgusting.